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Don’t Destroy First Amendment to Stop Mass Public Killings
Ammoland ^ | 4 September, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 09/06/2019 4:53:35 AM PDT by marktwain

Don't Destroy First Amendment to Stop Mass Public Killings

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- We are in the midst of a cluster of public mass murder. Such clusters are created and promoted, in large part, by media coverage of the events, which normalize them. The media coverage provides unstable individuals with permission, templates for action, scenarios, and tactics.

Reason magazine produced a podcast with the foremost expert on mass murder/rampage events, Northeastern University criminologist James Alan Fox, on August 14, 2019. Fox has published 18 books, dozens of journal and magazine articles, and hundreds of newspaper columns. The podcast is well worth the time to listen. Fox, who has studied the subject for 35 years, makes several cogent points.

Fox clarifies the definition of a mass public killing compared to a mass shooting, explains how the definitions have been muddied and how the changes are used to sensationalize the subject. Mass public killings are what the public is most concerned with.  Most mass killings, about 3/4, are private mass killings. About a half are domestic.  Another quarter are gang or crime related.

There is no evidence of an epidemic of mass public killings. The event numbers and the numbers of victims are too small to draw a conclusion.  It may simply be a spike, not a trend. Part of the problem is the copy cat/ media contagion effect, which creates an obsession with public mass killing. The coverage reinforces the idea that the way to solve a problem, or to “get even” is to pick up a gun and start killing people.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; firstamendment; massmurder; secondamendment
Media induced mass murder to foster a political agenda.
1 posted on 09/06/2019 4:53:35 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Oh the pot of gold, the golden ring if they could ever eliminate our right to bear arms. Thier would be no holding them back, no one standing in thier way


2 posted on 09/06/2019 5:00:08 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nicdip.com)
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To: marktwain

“How many children have to die before you give up your guns?” They will never stop saying this. Why would they?


3 posted on 09/06/2019 5:04:25 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: marktwain

Media hysteria over mass shooting is about promoting an agenda, not public safety or even the 24/7 news cycle.
The Media and the Left WANT more shootings, preferably by the ‘right’ people (right wing white males). They WANT to drive the sheeple into the gun control and thought crime folds.
Reason isn’t going to change this agenda or their response to shootings.


4 posted on 09/06/2019 5:10:47 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: wastoute

All of them.
And I want my cake back - ALL of it.


5 posted on 09/06/2019 5:11:23 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Little Ray; marktwain

“...Reason isn’t going to change this agenda...”

Nope.

But Firearms and the WILL to use them in defense of self, family, our way of life, and our Nation, will. And that’s the point, right there.

One has only to look at the words of one of the Left’s saints - Mao: “All power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”

They know it, and so do most of us.

Ergo, surrendering our absolute Right is not and will never be an option.


6 posted on 09/06/2019 5:17:12 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Little Ray

Glad to see someone gets my point. Until you are willing to say “All of them.” you are willing to negotiate with people who are blatantly negotiating in bad faith. This is a problem our government cannot resolve. Problems that can’t be resolved destroy institutions and governments.


7 posted on 09/06/2019 5:19:17 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute
“How many children have to die before you give up your guns?”

A few years ago there was this game where some ridiculous moral dilemma was proposed and you had to describe what you would do. Like: You are trapped in a mine with another person. Not enough air for the both of you to survive before rescuers arrive. Other guy takes a sleeping pill and says you decide what to do. What do you do? In general I would propose the most brutal self serving solution I could think of without hesitation or moralization. In this case with no pondering or contemplation I would say, "I'd kill him." People really didn't like me to play the game.

So with that as a model, my answer to this stupid question is, "All of them."

8 posted on 09/06/2019 5:37:38 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: wastoute

The answer to that question is “a lot less than number of children that will die is a disarmed populace”.

For proof, see the 20th century and Venezuela today.


9 posted on 09/06/2019 5:40:52 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: super7man

We really are at impasse here. The libtards have negotiated the question in bad faith for so long there is no give on our side at all. Once you realize “All of them” is the only acceptable answer there is nothing left to be said on either side.


10 posted on 09/06/2019 5:43:14 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: fruser1

Which, of course, reveals their hypocrisy. Libtards don’t have a problem with hypocrisy. If they weren’t hypocrites they wouldn’t be Democrats.


11 posted on 09/06/2019 5:46:13 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: marktwain

Bkmk


12 posted on 09/06/2019 6:43:35 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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To: wastoute
 
 
The logical retort to that would be “How many children have to die before you close down your abortion shops?”, relevant since they've now moved past mere fetuses onto full-term babies. See how that sticks in their craws.
 
 

13 posted on 09/06/2019 9:22:39 AM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: ronnie raygun

Oh yes there will be!


14 posted on 09/06/2019 9:57:14 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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