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FICO scores, work permit horrors coming. Not a great time to be an immigrant in the Trump era
News India ^ | Aug 16, 2019

Posted on 09/11/2019 10:46:03 PM PDT by 11th_VA

NEW YORK – Beware of filing for bankruptcy or that terrible habit of not paying your credit card on time, if you are an immigrant in the United States, hoping to get a Green Card someday. Big Brother watching you is passé. It’s the era of the Trump administration poking through your financials, digging up dirt from your credit history, that should give you the chills.

The new Public Charge rule which will come into effect from October 15th, will see a seismic shift in immigration to the US, with laws that favor rich immigrants with stellar financial track record, and disown poor immigrants.

Remember that line by the character played by Cuba Gooding Jr. from the film Jerry Maguire, ‘Show me the money!’ That’s what the folks at Department of Homeland Security will ask for, before issuing a Green Card.

In an 800-plus-page rule released this week to bring in the Public Charge rule, the Trump administration made one thing clear: they will decide on the merits of a case for permanent residency by also looking at the individual’s credit history.

Apart from determining if one used public benefits like food stamps, Medicaid, or housing vouchers, the rules say a low credit score or “negative credit history” in the US could indicate “that a person’s financial status is weak and that he or she may not be self-sufficient.”

The Wall Street Journal reported on Friday that lenders have used credit reports and scores for decades to help determine whether to approve consumers for loans. Employers, insurers and others also have factored in credit information when deciding whether to hire or extend services. But those in the credit-reporting industry said they can’t recall another time where credit reports affected US immigration applications.

The Department of Homeland Security pointed to the agency’s previous comments on the rule when asked about the change: “Self-reliance, industriousness, and perseverance laid the foundation of our nation and have defined generations of hardworking immigrants seeking opportunity in the United States.”

Chi Chi Wu, staff attorney at the National Consumer Law Center, a nonprofit consumer-advocacy group, told the Journal the change is “an absurd idea.” Credit scores, she said, are designed to predict whether someone will default on a loan, not to determine their immigration status.

The rule indicates that a prospective immigrant would have to obtain their own credit report to submit to the government: “DHS notes that an applicant may obtain a credit report for free, but in its estimates DHS assumed that applicants would pay for the report.”

In most other situations where a company or agency wants a consumer’s credit history, the organization—not the consumer—directly obtains and pays for the reports and scores from the credit reporting companies.

Add this new financial stress and burden, on top of the thousands of dollars that go annually in lawyers’ fees, updating work permits and health records, to name a few hurdles for immigrants on track for a Green Card.

The Journal reported the government says it won’t penalize people who don’t have a US credit history. But it says it might give “positive weight” to those who provide records showing they pay their bills on time and have little debt. The government also says it will generally look favorably at those with a credit score “characterized as ’good’ or better.”

The average FICO score among U.S. consumers hit a record high of 704 in 2018 according to Fair Isaac Corp., the score’s creator, reported the Journal. The scale taps out at 850.

Immigration attorney Emily Neumann, a partner in the law firm of Reddy & Neumann, P.C, points out in her blog this week on the new Public Charge rule, that immigrants in the pipeline for a Green Card should possess household income, assets, and resources of at least 250% of the Federal Poverty Guidelines according to household size. For a family of four, this would be $64,374 under the current guidelines.

Immigrants would also need to maintain private health insurance appropriate for the expected period of admission, so long as one does not receive subsidies in the form of premium tax credits under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act to pay for such health insurance.

There’s no doubt that for skilled immigrants with a good paying job, the new rules in the offing won’t be bothersome at all. They would in fact be hopeful of their applications getting expedited by this.

However, it’s a strange new world full of trepidations for immigrants in the Trump era.

The new rule come at a time when around 100,000 H-4 visa holders – most of them from India – could lose their work permit soon, which would see their family income dwindle, and take a huge hit.

With talk of recession growing stronger, there will be plenty of palpitations for H-1B visa workers working in companies vulnerable to downsizing. With their spouse also likely to lose work permit, and that Green Card priority date nowhere in sight, they would be having sleepless nights thinking of the danger of going from prosperity to poverty within a day’s time. Or worse, the prospect of having to pack bags to head back home.

The frustration for most immigrants would also be the dim prospects of immigration reforms happening anytime soon, with the per country cap on Green Card bills still stuck in Congress, with wrangling by Senators on Capitol Hill over its merits.

For now, keep paying those bills on time.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: aliens; greencard
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Wow - what a great President we have !!!
1 posted on 09/11/2019 10:46:03 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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Two thumbs up — foreign deadbeats should not be in our country!


2 posted on 09/11/2019 10:53:56 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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3 posted on 09/11/2019 10:55:38 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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Is there another country in the world that one can relocate to and just move in and stay ‘forever’ without at least showing some kind of self sustaining - LONG TERM - such as a cash deposit or even showing some form of steady income such as a guaranteed retirement?

Funny(?) we are just about the ONLY country in the world where an ‘outsider’ can own property, businesses become a citizen etc....

If I were to emigrate to say the Philippines, I could live there a thousand years and NEVER be considered a Filipino etc etc etc and my children would never ever be considered American-Philippine, maybe a Filipino with an American parent.....

Like the cartoon says....

It takes some nerve to sneak into a country and then complain that the holding facilities aren’t up to your standards ... even though probably better than you ever dreamed of...

Funny the President refers to them as a $hiite Hole country and is chastised for it when in reality, it doesn’t become a $hiite Hole country until WE want to send it citizens home ....


4 posted on 09/11/2019 11:11:45 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is cast as the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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Damn straight WOW.

The attitude expressed in this article is tells all.

Imagine the gall of that President Trump insisting that any immigrants in America be here legally, be productive members of society and support themselves without receiving welfare handouts or being on government dole, be law abiding members of society and pay their bills on time

5 posted on 09/11/2019 11:21:52 PM PDT by rdcbn ( Referentia)
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To: 11th_VA

It’s about DAMN TIME!!!


6 posted on 09/11/2019 11:24:55 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

I’m still not tired of winning


7 posted on 09/11/2019 11:26:07 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: 11th_VA

I wonder how long before some liberal judge stops this.


8 posted on 09/11/2019 11:56:04 PM PDT by KittyKares (Drain the Swamp)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Big Brother watching you is passé. It’s the era of the Trump administration poking through your financials, digging up dirt from your credit history, that should give you the chills.
The media companies and all their employees should have their financials dug through so deeply it will feel like a colonscopy. Mealy-mouthed two-faced liars!

9 posted on 09/11/2019 11:59:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: 11th_VA

Was at a grocery store where a guy from who-knows-where kept handing the checkout lady card after card (the stack looked to be at least an inch thick) until one, finally, wasn’t rejected.


10 posted on 09/12/2019 12:21:57 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: kaehurowing

Seriously. Our FICOs rule a big chunk of our lives, why should illegals and other foreigners get a pass?

There are many jobs these days that require credit checks,

We have plenty of our own deadbeats, no need to import them.


11 posted on 09/12/2019 1:21:42 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: xrmusn
Is there another country in the world that one can relocate to and just move in and stay ‘forever’ without at least showing some kind of self sustaining - LONG TERM - such as a cash deposit or even showing some form of steady income such as a guaranteed retirement?

Living in Spain since 2016, for here the answer is no. We had to show proof of income and insurance in order to get residency and it has to be re-approved every 5 years.

However we already own a property and could start a business if we wanted to but that is a different visa. As for citizenship, I wouldn't even consider renouncing my citizenship to become a citizen of another country. My wife is British, lived in America with me for 10 years and voluntarily gave up her Green card when we moved to Spain. She also never even considered giving up her citizenship, not even for American citizenship.

12 posted on 09/12/2019 1:21:56 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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Note that our average FICOs are up. A little cause and effect in action again.


13 posted on 09/12/2019 1:22:50 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: 11th_VA

Mexico and many other countries have very similar standards for prospective immigrants. Where’s the outrage over that?

Why does Uncle Sugar have to be a world class sucker?


14 posted on 09/12/2019 1:35:30 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The Electoral College is the firewall protecting us from massive blue state vote fraud.)
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To: 11th_VA
The H-1B (and their H-4 visa family members) are like locusts on the US economy, swarms of millions, laying waste to our economy, and economically destroying their number of US citizens, and more.

The USA does not need one single H-1B visa or H-4 visa person. Send them all home.

15 posted on 09/12/2019 1:41:57 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: xrmusn

Is there another country you can bust into illegally and even consider being allowed to stay?


16 posted on 09/12/2019 2:07:34 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: TADSLOS; Tennessee Nana

ping


17 posted on 09/12/2019 3:22:25 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. conclusive)
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To: 11th_VA

Hey! you have to pay your credit card bills on time! If you got public benefits you’re not much benefit to us.

Boo hoo, don’t like it, get out.


18 posted on 09/12/2019 3:50:03 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: 11th_VA

The media is still trying to interchange immigrant with illegal alien


19 posted on 09/12/2019 3:53:04 AM PDT by okie 54
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To: 11th_VA

In other words, ILLEGALS.


20 posted on 09/12/2019 4:04:30 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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