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When the Fake Stream News start changing the story..., that is how you know they are lying.

I guess they could not properly answer the question how did Drones sneak past Saudi and U.S. Air Defense?

You have to ask yourselves who gains and who loses from this?

Well all the war mongers that have been begging for war with Iran now have their excuse.

Why would Iran attack with cruise missiles and then deny it? What would they gain from this?

Oil prices were going down and the U.S. is the #1 Exporter of Oil in the world now. We get less than 10% of our oil from the middle east these days.

1 posted on 09/16/2019 4:08:00 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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Saudis have everything to gain by drawing big brother into the fight.

Just like Iraq and the whole weapons of mass destruction that destroyed the Bush presidency, the Republican party and gave us 8 years of Obama.


2 posted on 09/16/2019 4:10:10 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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They know the drone attack is not selling...

After all Iran is not known for Drone attacks.

So in a desperate attempt to start a war with Iran it has changed to “Cruise Missiles”.

Again how did these cruise missiles sneak past Saudi and U.S. Air Defense?

Why would Iran do this and then deny it?

Who gains from this and who loses?

The people who gain from this are all those that have been pushing hard for a war against Iran.


4 posted on 09/16/2019 4:12:56 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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Why would Iran attack with cruise missiles and then deny it? What would they gain from this?

Oil prices were going down and the U.S. is the #1 Exporter of Oil in the world now. We get less than 10% of our oil from the middle east these days.

If you're implication is that the Saudis or the Americans alone or in combination blew up their own facilities to raise the price of oil, I recommend you take off your tinfoil hat and put on a dunce cap.

We do not work backwards from conspiracy theories, we think forward from facts on the ground that can be established.

That said, and having well in mind the Tonkin Gulf episode and "it's a slamdunk," the burden is on the president to prove without much doubt (operative word here is intentionally ambiguous) that the attack came from Iran.

Even if that is established, he must demonstrate that a military strike is the best move. That is equally difficult.


5 posted on 09/16/2019 4:14:31 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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Is Hillary in prison. No justice no war


7 posted on 09/16/2019 4:19:18 AM PDT by datricker (Cut Taxes Repeal ACA Deport DACA - Americans First, Build the Wall, Lock her up MAGA!)
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IMO, when all else fails follow the money. Almost immediately, after the incident, there was reporting of oil shortage and price increases.


8 posted on 09/16/2019 4:20:39 AM PDT by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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Where would they get the cruise missiles?

Their economy is in freefall, their oil is restricted, their people are in turmoil. And somehow a dozen cruise missiles appear out of nowhere to make a strike.

Yes, anti-Trump bad actors need a war to distract and stop the takedown of their network.


14 posted on 09/16/2019 4:26:51 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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Wonder how much Iran sanctions have to do with this...

If the sanctions are working, just let the sanctions do their work.


15 posted on 09/16/2019 4:27:29 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds)
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Meanwhile, and with a yuge FWIW...

Europe to Pay $15bln to Fund INSTEX: Iranian MP

17 posted on 09/16/2019 4:30:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds)
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We are not the #1 oil exporter. We are #8. See here:

http://www.worldstopexports.com/worlds-top-oil-exports-country/

How many other of your assertions are wrong?


20 posted on 09/16/2019 4:35:01 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Epstein proves it's all a charade.)
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I’m not buying this.


21 posted on 09/16/2019 4:35:04 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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With all of our satellites,assets in the region and we are waiting for Saudi Arabia to tell us what happened?
So if Iran fired cruise missiles at our ships or troops or bases in the middle East we would ask Saudi Arabia,or Israel what happened? Something is not right here folks


22 posted on 09/16/2019 4:36:28 AM PDT by ballplayer
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The Iranians are at war with Saudi Arabia, the West, etc. since 1979.

Sunna Islam (Saudi Arabia) versus Shia Islam (Iran).

The Houti rebels in Yemen are supported by Iran and have, to date, launched SCUD missiles into Saudi Arabia.
Why would an Iranian attack be so improbable?


30 posted on 09/16/2019 4:44:50 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.i)
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“Why would Iran attack with cruise missiles and then deny it? What would they gain from this? “

Really? You can’t think your way out of that paper bag?

Denial? To avoid a counterstrike. To make us show our capabilities of tracking them when we prove it.

What gain? Sunni v. Shia multi century warfare without end; this is just a slightly different battlefield. Regional hegemony by weakening Saudi. Higher oil prices for the little Iran can still manage to export.

Come on folks, have another cup of coffee before posting.


34 posted on 09/16/2019 4:48:03 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Epstein proves it's all a charade.)
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Why?

Iran retaliated against President Trumps sanctions buy attacking a target of oppotunity within the territory of the American ally Saudi Arabia.

Iran is withering on the vine and had to lash out and in effect starting a kinetic war

There must be no proportional rsponse. There must be wholesale Iranian destruction


49 posted on 09/16/2019 5:01:56 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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I find it hard to think that we don’t have 24/7 satellite coverage of that region and could produce images of these launches if they occurred. Where are they?


70 posted on 09/16/2019 5:29:28 AM PDT by Magnatron
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C’mon nouveaux-isolationist Freepers! Tell us how much you still hate your old hero Bolton and how Bush is evil and how we must not extend military power overseas! C’mon Lindberghs! Wait... Where are you? You were so vocal just a day ago!


83 posted on 09/16/2019 5:44:45 AM PDT by golux
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Maybe the FISA stuff really is going to come out this week


103 posted on 09/16/2019 6:09:20 AM PDT by freedomlover
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If true, isn’t this “war”?


111 posted on 09/16/2019 6:19:49 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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President Donald Trump warned the U.S. was "locked and loaded" to respond to the attack on Sunday, waiting for verification of who was responsible and for word from Saudi Arabia on how to proceed.

That had better be fake news.

131 posted on 09/16/2019 6:58:58 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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Trump needs to unload and unlock on this one and put his guns away. This is not our fight. The House of Saud has their own means to settle their affairs. Let them.


134 posted on 09/16/2019 7:06:03 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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