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the EU would, on the whole, prefer Britain to leave now, if possible quite soon
1 posted on 09/16/2019 9:29:33 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

I wonder what Xavier’s husband (wife?) has to say.


2 posted on 09/16/2019 9:36:17 PM PDT by oldplayer
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The EU put up a bitter fight, to date.

The polling must stink for the EU


3 posted on 09/16/2019 9:39:11 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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Who cares what Theresa May accepted? She is out of power and could not deliver anything. Any agreement with her is a dead letter.

Its hardly surprising the Yurps would whine that those who wanted to get out were the dishonest ones rather than their flunkies who wanted to remain in.

As far as the need for Britain to leave now, in that at least there can be some agreement. Do not agree to an extension once this deadline expires. Its as simple as that.


4 posted on 09/16/2019 9:43:39 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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If you watched the clips of the tail-end of this UK-Lux meeting...Boris walked straight out, got into the car and left....no tidy-up speech as you have in 99-percent of this type meetings. The Lux ‘boss’? He blasted away on Boris. I suspect Boris did everything possible to insult the guy and the EU...virtually locking in no extension.

The EU-Brussels crowd itself might find some reason to extend them...but if you leave this to the 27 members, I think half of them are lacking any reason to extend this another three months.


5 posted on 09/16/2019 9:47:28 PM PDT by pepsionice
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the very very best possible thing for UK is to get the Helll out of the EU! ASAP!
smooth or rough, get your independence, your country back!

there will undoubtably be some adjustments pro and con, up and down....but your freedom is far far far more important imho


6 posted on 09/16/2019 9:47:42 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Cronos

Do you have time to shill for the EU?

There is a war for you to go support...


7 posted on 09/16/2019 9:58:17 PM PDT by Eurotwit (FRexit? No. AdiEU. - Loud Mime)
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Talk about a bunch of drama queens. Kick the UK out if you want them gone, that way Johnson can get on with things. World leaders too arrogant and shortsighted to realize that once one of the worlds strongest economies is no longer there to prop up their scheme, it’ll start to sink. Too arrogant and shortsighted to see that if/when Brexit happens and the UK signs a bi-lateral trade deal with the US, they’ll be left out in the cold and their union will start to crumble.

If President Trump is re-elected the EU is screwed.


8 posted on 09/16/2019 10:04:39 PM PDT by qaz123
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My great-grandparents immigrated to the U.S. generations ago. Though I am pretty much full Irish by ancestry, I know very little Irish history.

There are some interesting things to know. Knowing some of these things helps to explain just how Great Britain finds itself with such a perplexing problem.

An Irish war of independence resulted in an Irish Republic separate from the UK in 1922. The counties making up Northern Ireland were not included in the new republic and remained part of the UK.

Not everyone affected by the Treaty agreed with the partitioning of Ireland.

In 1973, despite some lack of agreement that Ireland should be partitioned, both the UK (including Northern Ireland) and the Republic of Ireland joined the EU, as two previously independent nations.

The Republic of Ireland joined the EU with a remarkable distinction that set it apart from other EU nations. Modifications to the treaties that created the EU could be approved by the governments of the member nations but the Republic of Ireland could only change those treaty agreements by referendum of the voters. This gave Irish voters a direct say in EU governance that other EU citizens lacked.

Now comes the tricky part.

In 1998, Great Britain and the Republic of Ireland signed the Good Friday Agreement to end the troubles in Ireland. One might ask, did the EU agree to the Good Friday Agreement? How could they not involve themselves in an agreement between two of their member states, each of which presumably had the power to leave the EU, that specified that there be no border controls between those two nations?

The answer, of course, is that EU nations do not believe in borders. They are globalists who believe that everybody should just get along and do what the government says to do.

At the very least, the EU should have insisted that Ireland and Great Britain could only join the EU if they agreed that if either one left the EU than both must leave. Allowing just one of them to leave the EU re-creates the very situation that the Good Friday Agreement was meant to solve.

From what I can learn, all the parties to the Brexit mess, including the EU, are getting what they deserve for having treated their national sovereignty with such disrespect.

Since the situation was a mess before Brexit, I don't see any way that it won't be a mess after Brexit.

If more knowledgeable people find that I have misunderstood some part of this I welcome correction.

18 posted on 09/16/2019 10:39:20 PM PDT by William Tell
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If they truly would prefer the UK to leave it’s very simple - they simply have to deny an extension and decline to negotiate a new deal.


21 posted on 09/16/2019 11:03:55 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Cronos

Even Labour wouldn’t bite on May’s “deal”.


39 posted on 09/17/2019 4:00:58 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Cronos

31 Oct ain’t that far away...


44 posted on 09/17/2019 4:11:35 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Cronos

We have no customs union with Canada.

We now have high tariffs on Chinese goods, but Canada to US smuggling isn’t significant despite thousands of miles of unguarded border.

There were duty-free shops in my youth.

No Dubliner is going to spend 20 Euros on petrol to buy stuff five pounds cheaper in Belfast.


45 posted on 09/17/2019 4:12:03 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Toyota operates globally and correctly pays the large numbers of different tax rates and amounts, as do other multi-nationals.


54 posted on 09/17/2019 4:36:20 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Cronos

The Gaurdian -read no further.


57 posted on 09/17/2019 4:38:21 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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....the EU remains a club of small countries...

Interesting. Wonder if this leftist Guardian writer also likes to use the word "crashout".

71 posted on 09/17/2019 6:24:29 AM PDT by Yardstick
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Brexit: Legal loophole ‘would allow Boris Johnson to deliver no-deal on 31 October’

Benjamin Kentish Political Correspondent @BenKentish
Sept 16 2019

The independent (uk)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-boris-johnson-leave-legal-loophole-a9107051.html


90 posted on 09/17/2019 7:30:39 AM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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Supreme Court: Parliament suspension case ‘a difficult question of law

Sept. 17, 2019

Bbc

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49722087


101 posted on 09/17/2019 1:16:18 PM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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Why the EU should stick to the Brexit deadline and rule out any extensions

The Guardian
September 17, 2019

https://news.yahoo.com/why-eu-stick-brexit-deadline-090022455.html


103 posted on 09/17/2019 4:34:36 PM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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To: Cronos

If I go there will be trouble
And if I stay it will be double


105 posted on 09/17/2019 7:28:37 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Brexit: Varadkar ‘can’t agree to direct rule return’

By Shane Harrison
BBC
sept. 18, 2019

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-49743816

alternatively NI could be cut loose to form a separate country, if only as an intermediate step...


111 posted on 09/18/2019 9:23:33 AM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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