Posted on 09/18/2019 9:12:59 AM PDT by gandalftb
muslims killing muslims is a bad thing?
“The Saudi facility had air defenses, but they are old and their radar has only about a 20 km range.”
i really wondered about what that situation was ... one would think the SA would be smart enough and care enough to have the best air defenses in the world protecting their world’s largest refineries from nearly by hostile regimes ...
seems like the U.S., and maybe even Israel would be willing to sell them whatever they need (of course with embedded radio-actuated software self-destruct mechanisms in case they should “lose” any of it) ...
“act of war”
no doubt about it. but against whom? sees like against SA since it was their refineries on their territory ...
SA can afford the best, but they have to be expertly manned and maintained something Arab cultures don’t do well.
Without dedicated expert manning & maintaining its expensive junk!
“Talk about artificial scarcity...”
When the news leads to the average American’s gas tank being 55% full instead of 33% full, that is a real scarcity. Rising prices are the natural and useful market response.
The Saudis have long range radar on the coast, but they were all looking south at the Strait of Hormuz where the latest trouble has been.
The attack came from the north. We don’t have AWACs in the area, they are over Syria and western Iraq, very busy theater.
It is just like the Eastern Front in WWII - Dead Commies, Dead Nazis, what is not to like?
Not sure if this is related, but it is interesting:
U.S. Transportation Command ordered a turbo activation of 28 logistics ships spread across Military Sealift Command, yesterday.
The activation, the largest of its kind since Operation Iraqi Freedom, rapidly transitions ships from a semi-dormant, reduced operating status to a fully crewed ship ready to sail within five days.
“...very complicated to “lock and load”.
If I understand the euphemism accurately, it simply means being in a state of readiness for combat should it prove imminently necessary. A statement of “bravado” so to speak.
How is that “very complicated”?
Never have trusted the saudis. President Trump, Please allow the saudis to handle their crap fest. Once again the saudis act like monkeys and throw crap at America
So the Sunnis are showing us proof that their Shia enemies did it? I’m guessing that means they want us to do something for them.
China might be for hire, at the right price....
Just tell those young Red Chinese Peoples Liberation Army soldiers, who have no female waiting at home for them, they can have their choice of Iranian women. Just kill their fathers, husbands and brothers first....
And oh, yeah, wipe out this Shi’ite apostasy forever.
Then put Iran under the protectorate of Red China, shipping the Iranian petroleum supply to China.
The supply routes would stay open then.
So when you sell your house, will you sell it for what the cost to build it was when it was new?
Send in John Kerry and James Taylor?
They could end their stupid war with Yemen for starters...
I wonder what Saudi Arabia is going to do about this, other than asking us to bomb Iran.
They could end their stupid war with Yemen for starters...
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the Sauds have an airforce and let them fight their own wars.
The Saudi’s are doing the smart thing in trying to lay the blame at the right perpetrator and build a base of support for whatever follows.
That would be my thought.
The same technique worked in Syria. Whenever President Trump begins talking about peaceful solutions to these conflicts, there's some horrible action by the evil dictator. The people blamed are not the ones who benefit from what happened.
I hope President Trump has smartened up. It's bad enough he let the War Machine lead him so far astray.
Did you see on Sunday AM who was already out there saying "Bomb Iran"? Liz Cheney.
It is the tactics of combined arms, all the services working together and the logistics to support them in the field.
For instance, Abrams tanks. The Air Force will move a few, but they don’t like to, so most have to heavy lift by sea. That’s slow. Maintenance support is the same for a company of armor as it is for a battalion, so you have to anticipate the size of the fight and plan ahead.
It is a busy theater. We have to bring air assets in that are currently committed to Syria and Afghanistan, specifically AWACs. Well the Brits operate most of the AWACs but are too far away for sustained loiter. So we need to bring in our own, now you need a base, up and running, so forth.
I don’t care, let them take care of their own problems.
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