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New Mexico’s free-college plan could be a game-changer for student debt in America (Math is hard)
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Posted on 09/19/2019 5:27:37 AM PDT by qwerty1234

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To: dblshot
Depend on it-the ‘students’ are pretty well ‘conditioned’ by the time the enter college.

The public schools and the MSM have done such a thorough job that the university hardly has to struggle making kids into Communist automatons

41 posted on 09/19/2019 6:13:39 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
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To: Skywise; qwerty1234
This isn’t college anymore - this is extended public education and an outdated mode of learning at that.

In addition this is nothing more than an illegal political kickback to universities and teachers unions (Democrats)

Well stated, let's do it again.

42 posted on 09/19/2019 6:14:46 AM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: VanDeKoik

It’s already that. You can bet only “approved” Colleges will be eligible. This is the kind of BS you get from the Rats. Compulsory taxpayer funding for having your kids brainwashed.


43 posted on 09/19/2019 6:16:09 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Durbin

Yes I did. B.S. in Petroleum Engineering from New Mexico Tech. One of the best engineering, physics, and astrophysics education available.


44 posted on 09/19/2019 6:16:43 AM PDT by Cheesehead in Texas
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To: qwerty1234

So the people of the great state of New Mexico are on the hook for the rest of the money.
That is just great! The Demorats are such scum.


45 posted on 09/19/2019 6:17:46 AM PDT by spincaster (ust)
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To: qwerty1234
Someone please explain to me how paying tuition for 55,000 students is only going to cost "$25 to $35 million a year". The number is *easily* 500% more than that - at $10K per year (which even at that seems pretty low), that comes out to $550M/year...

Tuition and fees at UNM is $7,500. If the student gets 75% through grants and scholarships that leaves $1,875 out of pocket. 35,000,000 / 55,000 = $650. Somebody is lying about the finances of this program. And that was the best case. At only 25% grant money the student must pay $5,625. Liar, liar, your panties are on fire.

46 posted on 09/19/2019 6:18:05 AM PDT by ProudFossil
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To: central_va

“I like deserts...”. From Central VA. LOL. I assume you have been in a desert at some time. Probably briefly. Remember taking your family to the beach? Remember how the sand was in EVERYTHING? Think about it. It’s like living on the beach. Every where you go it’s like going to the beach. At home it is a constant battle to keep the sand out. I loved growing up in New Mexico. Don’t get me wrong. Loading our .22s on the back porch to go rabbit shooting at (not “hunting” you can’t hardly hit a running jack rabbit so it’s all fun) as a 13 year old. Deer hunting with my dad. Spelunking. It was great. I don’t miss the sand.


47 posted on 09/19/2019 6:21:42 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

Humidity sucks. The temperature in VA is always 2. 2 hot or 2 cold.


48 posted on 09/19/2019 6:24:54 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Rdct29

re: “What happens to the money if Democrats win and stop fracking? “

What happens if a new energy source comes about?


49 posted on 09/19/2019 6:27:40 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: central_va

Of course you are correct. Humidity seriously sucks. I confess, I had no idea what “humidity” was until I was almost 20. I really struggled with it for a long time. Then I went to Jump School at Fort Benning in July. That fixed it. It really comes down to how you prefer your underwear. Gritty with sand or soaked in sweat.


50 posted on 09/19/2019 6:33:43 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

I was in Israel twice and it’s hot but the shade provides great relief. When it’s humid the shade doesn’t really make you feel any better. There is no escape. Nighttime is worse. You can’t sleep. Thank God for AC.


51 posted on 09/19/2019 6:38:36 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: dblshot

Tennessee has a program where if students meet the standards and comply with the program, they can get up to two years of college education through the community college system. They have to maintain a “B” average and perform a small amount of volunteer hours prior to each semester. It does not include the cost of books.

It is geared towards trade-type programs, where if the person chooses to not pursue a bachelors degree they will at least have an associates and formal training in a technical skill.


52 posted on 09/19/2019 6:46:30 AM PDT by voicereason (The RNC is like the "one-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: ctdonath2

A professor told me one time that the proportion of students who wouldn’t do the work has increased over the years, as has the proportion who fail but demand special treatment (including higher grades) anyway.

Makes me glad I didn’t go into teaching.


53 posted on 09/19/2019 6:47:13 AM PDT by irv (Live Tea or die!)
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To: qwerty1234
Why not offer all high school grads two years of free or at least low-cost and mostly online public college courses, along with a comprehensive assessment of job readiness and specific skills and areas of knowledge? Done properly, that could do much to ready high school seniors for work, give them a taste of college, and test their suitability for more education.

In relatively short order, this would diminish the country's poor investment in residential colleges. Among other useful effects, the country's residential colleges would have to focus their attention on costs and the delivery of genuine educational value to students.

54 posted on 09/19/2019 6:52:51 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: qwerty1234

Finland has nearly free college for all citizens. Over 80% graduate and they have very good colleges.
Sounds good huh? Now the only problem is that there are so many graduates that most of them can’t get any sort of job aside from retail, for those who can find a job.


55 posted on 09/19/2019 6:53:26 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: voicereason

Here in Texas City the high school has a program which certifies students to operate heavy machinery like bulldozers, cranes, skid steer etc. which skills are in heavy demand in Texas. A good job right out of High school!


56 posted on 09/19/2019 6:59:10 AM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: irv

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Multiply that by 55,000 and tell me what you’ve accomplished with “free” college.
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You mean aside from Paul’s continued support via voting, an unconstitutional growth of govt & the economic servitude (guess I repeated myself there) of the taxpayers?


57 posted on 09/19/2019 7:17:59 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: qwerty1234

Rest assured the money will most likely come from taxes on the most profitable areas of New Mexico, the oil and gas industries.

That is how it works in Oklahoma. As parts of the oil rights ownership, your share of oil production may be $2,000 a month.

After dozens of Oklahoma “taxes” are taken out you may get $100-200 of that.


58 posted on 09/19/2019 7:30:23 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: qwerty1234

They’ll pay through the Nose when/if they get a Real Job


59 posted on 09/19/2019 7:33:00 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Cheesehead in Texas

Ok, so they have some tech schools that are world class. I didn’t know that. I was just thinking on terms of major universities and couldn’t think of any.


60 posted on 09/19/2019 9:33:34 AM PDT by Durbin
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