[Liz]

And before someone asks why are we defending Heinz.......

.....the point is to show how bad it was (as you said) that even a Democrat opted out.

[thinden]

And before someone asks why are we defending Heinz.......

.....the point is to show how bad it was (as you said) that even a Democrat opted out.

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another way to look at Heinz departure could be that:

Heinz comes from real OLD generational family money

where as “humper” biden, “rural healthcare fraud specialist,” con artist & ex VEEP’S bro, james biden & “quid pro joe” are basically grifters on the take selling the old man’s political influence or giving away US gummit assets through extortion, kickbacks or bribes (aka “NEW” money)

iow; young heinz doesn’t need the heart burn that comes with dealing with criminal trash like the biden gang.