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_Europe Won't Help, and Were Not Going to Hold Thousands of ISIS Fighters at Guantanamo Bay
CNS ^ | October 8, 2019 | Patrick Goodenough

Posted on 10/09/2019 12:21:49 PM PDT by xzins

The United States for months has been urging European countries to repatriate captured ISIS fighters and their families from northeastern Syria, to no avail, and the U.S. is not about to incarcerate them in Guantanamo Bay, President Trump said on Monday.

“We’re not bringing 50, 60, 70 – or even 10,000 people to Guantanamo Bay in Cuba,” Trump told reporters at the White House. “We’re not going to be paying them for the next 50 years – or paying to take care of them for the next 50 years.”

He characterized the European response to Washington’s appeals as another example of allies taking advantage of the U.S., and treating it as a “sucker.”

Trump’s comments came after the White House announced a pullback of U.S. troops in the area, ahead of a planned Turkish military operation against Kurdish fighters who were U.S. allies in the campaign to defeat ISIS.

The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) are dominated by fighters from the Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG), whom Turkey views as terrorists because of links to the Kurdish Workers’ Party (PKK) – a radical group which Turkey, as well as the U.S. and European Union, has designated a terrorist organization.

As Trump faced questions on the move, which is drawing strong criticism from many Democrats and Republicans, he recalled his campaign pledges to bring home U.S. troops from what were originally supposed to be limited military engagements.

He also expressed frustration about other countries’ reluctance to repatriate their citizens among the thousands of ISIS jihadists being held by the SDF, along with their family members, following the fall of the Sunni terrorist group’s so-called caliphate.

U.N. officials have put the number of captured fighters and families in the tens of thousands. Many are being housed at the Al-Hol displaced persons camp in northern Syria, where the population swelled from some 10,000 last January to around 73,000 by April.

In its Syria statement on Sunday, the White House said the U.S. had pressed European nations to take back their fighters, but they refused.

“The United States will not hold them for what could be many years and great cost to the United States taxpayer,” it said.

And – in what some analysts saw as a veiled warning to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan about the implications of a military operation in the area, the statement continued, “Turkey will now be responsible for all ISIS fighters in the area captured over the past two years.”

In his comments Monday, Trump returned to the subject:

“What are we going to do with these 60 to 70,000 people that are – that are being held and being guarded and we can’t release them, and many fighters also?” he asked.

“And I said, ‘I want them to go back to Germany, to France, to different European countries from where they came.’ And I said to the European countries, I said to all of them, ‘Take the people back.’”

“And they said, ‘No, no, no, we don’t want to do it. We don’t want them back,’” Trump said.

“And they’re so used to the United States being a sucker, being a fool,” he continued. “We’re talking about billions and billions of dollars.”

The Al-Hol camp in northeastern Syria. (Photo by Fadel Senna/AFP/Getty Images) Trump said he had told the Europeans repeatedly to take back their citizens, but “they kept saying no. Maybe they won’t be saying no now, I don’t know.”

Trump said the U.S. had done “a great service” for the world and Europe in particular by leading the effort to defeat ISIS, but that, unfortunately, “they take advantage” of the U.S.

He warned that the U.S. would be watching Turkey, and hoped that the Turks, Europeans and others would do “whatever they’re supposed to do with these captured ISIS fighters and families.”

‘A global threat’

European governments have voiced reluctance to repatriate citizens who joined ISIS’ jihad. Reasons vary, but include concerns that difficulties in obtaining clear evidence of wrongdoing will see suspects dodge conviction and be released back into society.

In France, public opinion runs strongly against repatriating jihadists, although there is considerable support for allowing the French wives and children to return home.

E.U. governments generally want suspects to be tried in the countries where the alleged crimes were committed. Some foreign jihadists, including French nationals, have been put on trial in Iraq, and handed death sentences.

An intelligence report compiled for French lawmakers last year estimated that about 5,000 citizens of E.U. countries traveled to the region to join ISIS, including more than 1,300 from France, 800 from Germany, 800 from Britain, 500 from Belgium, 250 from Spain and 100 from Italy.

Non-E.U. foreign fighters who traveled to join ISIS were estimated to include 4,000-4,500 from Russia or Russian-speaking countries in Central Asia and the Caucasus, 2,000-3,000 from Tunisia, 1,600-1,700 from Morocco, 700 from Indonesia, 600 from Egypt, and 200-300 from Algeria.

Many of those fighters had been killed during the fighting, the report said.

Even before the fall last March of the last foothold of ISIS-held territory in eastern Syria, the U.S. had been urging foreign governments to take back their captured citizens.

“Repatriating these foreign terrorist fighters to their countries of origin, ensuring that they are prosecuted and detained – that’s the best solution to preventing them from returning to the battlefield,” the State Department said in February.

“We view these fighters as a global threat and we seek global cooperation to resolve that threat.”


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1 posted on 10/09/2019 12:21:49 PM PDT by xzins
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In his comments Monday, Trump returned to the subject:

“What are we going to do with these 60 to 70,000 people that are – that are being held and being guarded and we can’t release them, and many fighters also?” he asked.

“And I said, ‘I want them to go back to Germany, to France, to different European countries from where they came.’ And I said to the European countries, I said to all of them, ‘Take the people back.’”

“And they said, ‘No, no, no, we don’t want to do it. We don’t want them back,’” Trump said.

“And they’re so used to the United States being a sucker, being a fool,” he continued. “We’re talking about billions and billions of dollars.”

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2 posted on 10/09/2019 12:22:21 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: xzins

Shoot them, bullets are cheap.


3 posted on 10/09/2019 12:24:11 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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I’m thinking the Turks might do that


4 posted on 10/09/2019 12:25:24 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: xzins

We can afford a single MOAB.


5 posted on 10/09/2019 12:26:58 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: xzins

Bring the leaders to GTMO. They probably have some nice information on funding channels.

Keeps them out of the fight and hurts the funding of the low level fighters.


6 posted on 10/09/2019 12:29:06 PM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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put them to work- after all, the left told us that that was the only reason they hated us and had to become terrorists,, because they had no work and were jealous of us- I’m sure these people would be loyal trusted employees-

Yes folks, the left actually suggested at one point that putting them to work would curb their murderous intentions


7 posted on 10/09/2019 12:29:35 PM PDT by Bob434
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I’m thinking the Turks might do that
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No way. Erdogan and the Turks made huge profits from buying cheap oil from ISIS when it controlled most of Syria’s oil fields. Erdogan would like nothing more than for ISIS prisoners to “escape” and take back the oil fields.

TURKEY IS NOT OUR FRIEND.


8 posted on 10/09/2019 12:29:51 PM PDT by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: xzins

Turn them over to the Syrians.


9 posted on 10/09/2019 12:30:07 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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To: xzins

The Turks seem more interested in shooting Kurds, they were helping the jihadists.


10 posted on 10/09/2019 12:31:25 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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And what happens when the Kurds fall back under attack from Erdogan and the Turks either let them go or they simply disperse in the chaos of the attacks?


11 posted on 10/09/2019 12:31:26 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: House Atreides

And maybe a good relationship with Trump for the next 5 years would be worth more.


12 posted on 10/09/2019 12:31:30 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: Abathar

At least a few 5,000 lb bombs!


13 posted on 10/09/2019 12:31:41 PM PDT by gr8eman (Only the mediocre are always at their best)
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To: xzins

Herd them into Iran.


14 posted on 10/09/2019 12:33:12 PM PDT by VietVet876
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To: xzins

All that’s necessary is for each of the ISIS subnhumans to be taken for a little walk in the desert . . . Nada problema.


15 posted on 10/09/2019 12:34:09 PM PDT by libstripper (a bit,)
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To: xzins

Many of the hardened jihadists will either stay and fight/die in Syria, while others will go to EU countries. The EU will regret balking at taking them.


16 posted on 10/09/2019 12:36:37 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: xzins

Give them all free helicopter rides


17 posted on 10/09/2019 12:39:22 PM PDT by PGR88
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I think the most humane thing to do is put the ISIS fighters and their families to sleep.
18 posted on 10/09/2019 12:40:29 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: Abathar

I heard that the Kurds have a prison holding over 10,000 ISIS fighters. Let’s give the Kurdish guards 20 minutes notice to get out and drop one laser guided MOAB on the place.


19 posted on 10/09/2019 12:41:13 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: xzins

Just hand them over to the tender mercies of the Yazidis.


20 posted on 10/09/2019 12:42:24 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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