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To: naturalman1975

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3 posted on 10/17/2019 3:13:46 AM PDT by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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Labour is already criticizing it as worse than Theresa May’s deal but the UK is unlikely to get one that it really wants.

If it doesn’t like what’s on offer, it would have to a swallow a no-deal Brexit.

I don’t see the EU giving ground to the extent that every one in Britain wants.

The kind of deal Johnson’s opponents would go along with is sheer fantasy.


4 posted on 10/17/2019 3:23:33 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I hope he can get it through Parliament. The DUP look like they may be a problem, but the one advantage of losing his majority is that Johnson just about has to get some of the opposition to vote for a deal, which means, the DUP actually becomes less relevant - when they alone were enough to get him over the line, it was a lot harder to deal with them.

I said this in another thread, a moment ago.

I’ve been trying to get the UK out of the EU since the early 2000s. My concerns with it date back even further but I only became actively involved once I left military service - I didn’t consider politics appropriate while I was serving.

This isn’t a new issue to me.

And sovereignty has always been my primary concern, and ‘ever closer union’ is the threat to that sovereignty.

If the EU was still the common market the UK joined, I’d probably be in favour of it. But it’s changed from that and it will continue to change.

Until it was too late to leave.

This isn’t Britain’s last chance yet - but it’s getting very close to that, so I damned well want out now.

The UK is still a sovereign nation - but I fear it wouldn’t be in five more years if it stayed in.

Getting out now... even if the deal isn’t perfect, once the UK is out there’s nothing stopping it trying to fix whatever’s still broken - in fact it will be easier in many ways to negotiate further.


6 posted on 10/17/2019 3:25:22 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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