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Washington Post: For the first time, workers are paying a higher tax rate than investors and owners
Washington Post ^ | 10/17/2019 | By Christopher Ingraham

Posted on 10/17/2019 9:47:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Most Americans have to work to earn a living. But the rich are different: They get most of their income not from labor but from what they own — companies, stocks, real estate and the like.

These income-generating assets are what economists call capital. And because capital is heavily concentrated among the rich, the U.S. government taxed earnings derived from capital at a higher rate than earnings made through labor for the entirety of the 20th century.

But that’s no longer the case, according to economists Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman of the University of California at Berkeley. In their new book, “The Triumph of Injustice,” they present data showing that in 2018, labor income was taxed at a higher rate than capital income for the first time in modern U.S. history.

The proximate cause of the shift was the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), which dramatically slashed taxes on corporate profits and on estates — both forms of capital income — according to their analysis. But Saez and Zucman also note that the trend has been decades in the making, driven in large part by the same forces that have pushed billionaires’ tax rates below those of the working class.

“From the 1940s to the 1980s, the average tax rate on capital exceeded 40%, while labor paid less than 25%," they write. “Since its peak of the 1950s, however, the average capital tax rate has been cut by twenty percentage points. At the same time, labor taxation has risen more than ten points, driven by the upsurge in payroll taxes.”

Saez and Zucman’s findings are controversial in some quarters of the economics field because they upend a number of long-held orthodoxies about the distribution of income and spending in the United States.

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1 posted on 10/17/2019 9:47:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Guess it’s time for another income tax cut then.


2 posted on 10/17/2019 9:49:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: SeekAndFind

False. Their Leftist Trust fund gods have been doing this for years. It all about how they structure their fund.


3 posted on 10/17/2019 9:50:43 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: SeekAndFind

Also false.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-middle-class-economic-progress-11569786435

President Trump’s critics can’t deny that the economy is doing well, so instead they insist all the benefits have gone to the rich and large corporations. “America’s middle class is under attack,” Sen. Elizabeth Warren asserted in her presidential campaign announcement last December.

The latest data from the Census Bureau monthly surveys tell a different story. Real median household income—the amount earned by those in the very middle—hit $65,084 (in 2019 dollars) for the 12 months ending in July. 5 times the rate of growth under Obama and 12 times greater then under Bush.


4 posted on 10/17/2019 9:52:55 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: SeekAndFind

Horrific! I recommend that we immediately reduce the size and scope of government, cut spending and cut taxes.


5 posted on 10/17/2019 9:53:21 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is so disingenuous on the WP’s part. They imply only day traders and big investors are getting the benefit here. They don’t mention that millions of American families and workers benefit through their IRA’s, 401k’s, pension funds, and other retirement accounts, which are hugely invested in stock/bond portfolios managed by the people the left wants to vilify.


6 posted on 10/17/2019 9:53:21 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: SeekAndFind

BS.

They’re counting workers making OVER 50k and including state taxes.

Let us not forget that investment income tax is made with money ALREADY taxed!


7 posted on 10/17/2019 9:53:43 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought we couldn’t say “owner” because rassist...


8 posted on 10/17/2019 9:55:44 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Skywise

Yes, and what this is saying is people who are retired and living on that already taxed investment get to keep more of their earnings and live better retirements. The article authors would have all of us work till we are dead in their quest to punish the rich.


9 posted on 10/17/2019 9:56:44 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“...For the first time, workers are paying a higher tax rate than investors and owners...”

So, if a democrat gets elected, they are going to CUT taxes for the middle class, huh?????

Yeah....Riiiiiight...


10 posted on 10/17/2019 10:01:13 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: MNJohnnie

Yup.

Whenever the economy is doing well under a Republican the only Democrat countermove is “but....not enough of it is trickling down to YOU!”

It’s a party built around envy, and given human nature, it works for them much of the time.


11 posted on 10/17/2019 10:02:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: SeekAndFind

This bit of class-warfare propaganda is brought to you by the WashingtonCompost on behalf of Betty Warren and her “Plan” to tax retirement funds, i.e., “Capital”.


12 posted on 10/17/2019 10:05:29 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan
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They don’t mention that millions of American families and workers benefit through their IRA’s, 401k’s, pension funds, and other retirement accounts,...

YOU RACIST! Look, a squirrel!

13 posted on 10/17/2019 10:10:48 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: SeekAndFind

A conservative looks at this data and concludes that labor is taxed too much. A liberal looks at the same data and concludes that “capital” (whatever that means) is taxed too little.

Where is it written in our constitution that the role of government is to equalize or manipulate the tax burden on different classes of taxpayers?

Obviously, in the run up to the election, we are going to get more and more propaganda regarding income/wealth inequality and the sad stories of those who have been “left behind” by the Trump economy.

Buckle your seat belts.


14 posted on 10/17/2019 10:14:19 AM PDT by con-surf-ative
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To: SeekAndFind
Some interesting observations about these graph:

  1. The years of Trump as president are conveniently absent from the lower graph, but not the top graph. Why?
  2. The tax rates on capital seem to move more or less independently of the gains of the top 1%.
  3. The gains of the bottom 90% made their biggest gains during the period of low immigration and tight labor markets, peaking at the end of the Reagan years before falling sharply. They only begin to recover once BO became a lame duck.

15 posted on 10/17/2019 10:14:59 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This study has already been debunked by Forbes:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/howardgleckman/2019/10/11/are-us-billionaires-really-paying-a-lower-tax-rate-than-working-people-probably-not/#4b7b8ccd29ac


16 posted on 10/17/2019 10:20:58 AM PDT by j.frank.dobie (2016!)
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To: SeekAndFind

So lower the taxes on the workers already.


17 posted on 10/17/2019 10:25:54 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes workers are over taxed, conservatives already know this.


18 posted on 10/17/2019 10:34:05 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Could it be that people are working and because they are working they are paying taxes?


19 posted on 10/17/2019 10:42:47 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

Yea DUH, capital is invested by the wealthy. No poor man ever gave me a job.


20 posted on 10/17/2019 10:48:30 AM PDT by gswilder
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