California regulator to probe whether utility companies broke rules by shutting [tr]

UK Daily Mail ^ | October 29, 2019 | Andrew Court

[C19fan]

California regulators say they will open a formal probe into whether utilities companies violated any rules by cutting power to millions of residents as a precaution during recent periods of high winds and heightened wildfire risks.

The announcement on Monday did not single out any utilities by name, but the bulk of 'public safety power shut-offs' under scrutiny were implemented by Pacific Gas and Electric Co, a unit of PG&E Corp, California's largest investor-owned utility.

PG&E filed for bankruptcy in January, citing $30 billion in civil liability from major wildfires sparked by its equipment in 2017 and 2018, including last year's Camp Fire, which killed 85 people and incinerated most of the Northern California town of Paradise. That fire ranks as the state's deadliest on record.

[C19fan]

Same regulators who tell PG&E to invest in "Green" energy at the expense of clearing brush and like near power lines and equipment.

[Spktyr]

It wasn’t even ‘at the expense of’ - they outright forbade the utilities from cutting brush and trees from equipment on the grounds that this would be raping nature or some such stupidity.

[GMMC0987]

Damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

[Buckeye McFrog]

Off to the gulags with the kulak wreckers!!

[ImJustAnotherOkie]

PG&E Says: So sue me

[Magnum44]

Yeah, sounds like PG&E is effed no matter what. Californica is killing off anything that even looks like a goose laying golden eggs.

[CodeToad]

Same people who sued them for not turning off the power.

Liberals are dangerous idiots.

[fruser1]

The commies in charge are happy they got their eco kickbacks by making the company invest in cost ineffective green energy. When the state takes over the company the commies will be set for life.

[circlecity]

So, if they leave the power on a create massive wildfires they will be sued and fined billions. If they shut down the power the regulatory commission will fine them. The life of a California power company.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Fine ‘em if they don’t, fine ‘em if they do!

A can’t-lose business plan!

[VTenigma]

You can’t make this s#it up no matter how much acid you do.

[SMARTY]

The enviro morons stand in their pathologically religious awe of ‘nature’...it's at the point now, that it's pathetic.

Any one of them would step over a dying person to save a frog. Sheeeeesh

[eyedigress]

I sure would have liked the millions in my pocket for that damn solar company Obola laundered money through.

[Responsibility2nd]

PG&E filed for bankruptcy in January, citing $30 billion in civil liability from major wildfires sparked by its equipment in 2017 and 2018, including last year's Camp Fire, which killed 85 people and incinerated most of the Northern California town of Paradise. That fire ranks as the state's deadliest on record.

Now it makes sense. I see what it going on here.

PG&E is punishing California for the 30 Billion Dollars in losses.

They figure if they just cut power during windstorms - they won't get sued again.

[Grampa Dave]

PG&E’s lawyers said, “If you will not let us get rid of dead trees and flammable brush around our electrical lines:

We will just turn off the electricity in those lines high windy conditions.

Electrical wiring without electricity flowing though the lines can not start a fire.

Then, you can’t sue us for starting fires due to your pro trees instead of human objectives green thuggery.

So take us to court, and our lawyers will destroy your lawyers.

[Harpotoo]

Who keeps open a losing company? Silicon Valley congressman: California should take control of PG&E as wildfire blackouts persist Published 3 hours ago

[Grampa Dave]

Any one of them would step over stomp a dying person to save a frog. Sheeeeesh

[rxsid]

While the utility company, PG&E, isn't 100% without blame, the environmentalist and "modern" forestry practices in the west need to be held to account.

This is primarily about forest management...or the lack thereof.

California's Devastating Fires Are Man-Caused -- But Not In The Way They Tell Us
Chuck DeVore Texas Public Policy Foundation VP and former California legislator | Jul 30, 2018, 06:11pm

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As timber harvesting permit fees went up and environmental challenges multiplied, the people who earned a living felling and planting trees looked for other lines of work. The combustible fuel load in the forest predictably soared. No longer were forest management professionals clearing brush and thinning trees.

But, fire suppression efforts continued. The result was accurately forecast by my forest management industry hosts in Siskiyou County in 2005: larger, more devastating fires—fires so hot that they sterilized the soil, making regrowth difficult and altering the landscape.

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In 2001, George E. Gruell, a wildlife biologist with five decades of experience in California and other Western states, authored the book, “Fire in Sierra Nevada Forests: A Photographic Interpretation of Ecological Change Since 1849.” Gruell’s remarkable effort compared hundreds of landscape photographs from the dawn of photography with photos taken from the same location 100 years later or more. The difference was striking. In the 1850s and 1860s, the typical Sierra landscape was of open fields of grass punctuated by isolated pine stands and a few scattered oak trees. The first branches on the pine trees started about 20 feet up—lower branches having been burned off by low-intensity grassfires. California’s Native American population had for years shaped this landscape with fire to encourage the grasslands and boost the game animal population.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2018/07/30/californias-devastating-fires-are-man-caused-but-not-in-the-way-they-tell-us/#12e10f0370af

 

The Lights Are Out in California, And That Was the Plan All Along
By Chuck DeVore | October 9, 2019

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They ignore the fact that annual precipitation totals over the past 100 years show no statistically meaningful trend.

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But California, unlike the rest of the nation, receives most of its moisture in the winter and the months bracketing it, while getting precious little rainfall during the summer. Further, California is drought-prone, and has been for as long as scientists can determine from tree rings and sediment records.

The bottom line is that California has always had a high threat from wildfires and always will. The issue is how will that threat be managed, accommodated, or avoided?

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To better understand how we came to today’s blackout, it is useful to look to the past. When the gold rush led to modern California, early photographers chronicled the landscape. In George E. Gruell’s 2001 book, “Fire in Sierra Nevada Forests: A Photographic Interpretation of Ecological Change Since 1849”

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For decades, up until the 1970s, California would harvest and replant about as much wood as could be grown through an abundance of sunshine, snow, and rain. But in the 1990s, concern over logging’s effect on the spotted owl (largely misplaced, as time would tell) led to a massive slowdown in the timber harvest, especially on the federal lands that make up about 60 percent of California’s forests. With a decline in the harvest came a decline in the allied efforts to clear brush, build and maintain access roads and firebreaks. This led inexorably to a decades’ long build-up in the fuel load. Federal funds set aside for increasingly unpopular forest management efforts were instead shifted to fire-suppression expenses.

All of this was clearly foreseen by the Western Governors’ Association 13 years ago when it published a Biomass Task Force Report that accurately predicted: “over time the fire-prone forests that were not thinned, burn in uncharacteristically destructive wildfires… …In the long term, leaving forests overgrown and prone to unnaturally destructive wildfires means there will be significantly less biomass on the ground, and more greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.”

https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/09/the-lights-are-out-in-california-and-that-was-the-plan-all-along/

 

And what happens when there is a massive decades long buildup of tree's in the forest brought about by environmentalist effectively putting a halt to proper forest management (including timber harvesting)...coupled with several years of drought? You get an estimated 129 million dead tree's on 8.9 million acres:

A large patch of dead trees are seen in a valley in the Sierra Nevada mountains from a helicopter tour Tuesday, Dec. 1, 2015. Mostly ponderosa and sugar pine trees are dying off in large numbers around Bass Lake and throughout the Sierra Nevada due to a bark beetle infestation brought about by years of extreme drought in California.

https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article189641729.html

Forests that have had harmful fire over-supression, massive increases in tress/brush, tens of millions of dead tree's due primarily to recent (but natural/cyclical) drout's coupled with very high winds is the current recipe for large fire disasters....human induced.

[Lockbox]

California to power companies:

If you trim bush and trees we will sue you

If your power lines hit trees in high winds conditions and causes a fire, we will sue you

If you cut off power in high wind conditions to prevent a fire we will sue you.

[palmer]

Yep, that's all correct. They need harvesting, they also need more prescribed fire. Those low intensity fires will help with later harvesting.

They also need to restore the forests after the recent wildfires and before new ones. A properly restored forest will be much less fire prone.