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NY Democrat presses Trump officials on terrorist designation for foreign white supremacist groups
The Hill ^ | October 30, 2019 | Zack Budryk

Posted on 10/30/2019 1:15:21 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

Rep. Max Rose (D-N.Y.) pressed law enforcement and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) officials on their efforts to counter white supremacist groups as terror organizations in a House Homeland Security hearing Wednesday.

“Do we need to consider designating some of these [white nationalist] entities as Foreign Terrorist Organizations, or is the current policy of the United States of America that we only designate Muslim organizations as FTOs?” Rose asked the witnesses, who included acting DHS Secretary Kevin McAleenan and FBI Director Chris Wray.

“If a white nationalist organization fits the criteria of an FTO, as I believe these do, should we consider designating them as such so you have the broad based authorities you currently do to fight ISIS, al-Qaeda, and its affiliates?” he added.

The witnesses said FTO designations are the responsibility of the State Department. Rose pressed Wray on whether he would object to removing the FTO designation for other foreign terrorist organizations.

“We would find that very operationally problematic, yes. I will say that I’m sure—as Secretary McAleenan said to a different question—we can always use more tools,” Wray responded. “You’re never going to find a law enforcement or intelligence professional who wouldn’t like more tools. And I can imagine situations where what you’re describing would be very helpful for us to have as a tool.”

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: newyork; terrorists; whitesupremacists
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Yes, "foreign white supremacist groups" are the problem...
1 posted on 10/30/2019 1:15:21 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Great...lets create another gov funded group that does the same job as law enforcement in other Countries.
DHS-2...because the first one wasn’t pointless enough.


2 posted on 10/30/2019 1:17:26 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: yesthatjallen

Well, white supremacists have killed more Americans in the last few years than any other group. Soooo, he’s kinda right.


3 posted on 10/30/2019 1:19:37 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: dp0622

You think Rose has any chance of being re-elected?


4 posted on 10/30/2019 1:27:31 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Max Rose is at the top of the White Terrorist list.


5 posted on 10/30/2019 1:33:13 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: yesthatjallen

How many “foreign white nationalist” groups have actually committed terror attacks against the United States?


6 posted on 10/30/2019 1:35:50 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Cicero

[Max Rose is at the top of the White Terrorist list.]


My impression is that with Trump at the top of the ballot in 2020, Rose is dead in the water in his highly white ethnic Staten Island district. But ya never know.


7 posted on 10/30/2019 1:38:10 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: thefactor

You have anything to back that up?
Islamists seem to be the real threat.


8 posted on 10/30/2019 1:39:20 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: thefactor
Hate to break the news to Rosie, but Arab Islamic terrorists are officially designated as white or Caucasian by the government classification system. They don't have their own race designation. Yet.

Last I checked, even the Indian subcontinent was officially part of whitedom, although the Brits classify them as Asian.

9 posted on 10/30/2019 1:39:51 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: yesthatjallen
"However, if that same American citizen swears allegiance to a violent white supremacist extremist group based overseas and spreads their message of terror, the Federal government does not have access to the same tools," it added.

Did Rose provide any evidence that the above is happening? This mostly sounds like PCness taken to the next level. Got to focus on the white folks, too, no matter how far one has to reach to try and justify it.

10 posted on 10/30/2019 1:48:06 PM PDT by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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To: thefactor

Yeah, but they clearly are NOT under the influence of a foreign power, so it’s hard to see what is gained by giving them that designation.


11 posted on 10/30/2019 1:49:47 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: thefactor

THE biggest threat and terror organization is the WHITE LIBERALS demographic.


12 posted on 10/30/2019 1:52:03 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Zhang Fei

WHAT THE MOTHER #### IS THIS GUY DOING REPRESENTING STATEN ISLAND?!!?!?!

IT’S BECAUSE OF ALL THE RUSSIANS AND ALBANIANS AND OTHER GROUPS IN THE BROOKLYN PART THAT HE WON!!!

TRUMP RECEIVED ALMOST 60 PERCENT OF THE VOTE ON STATEN ISLAND.

THAT DAMN PART OF BROOKLYN RUINS US!!!

I CANNOT IMAGINE HE WILL WIN AGAIN WHEN EVERY SINGLE ITALIAN ON STATEN ISLAND HEARS THAT HE SPOKE SUCH UTTER TRASH AND GARBAGE AND SPEWED SUCH WORTHLESS, VILE VOMIT!!!

I’M GONNA EMAIL THIS MOTHER ####ING PRICK RIGHT NOW!!!

sorry.


13 posted on 10/30/2019 1:53:21 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: Boogieman

It’s a distraction to put white people on the defensive.


14 posted on 10/30/2019 1:53:42 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Well, yeah, I have the FBI director’s testimony and crime data to back up the fact that white supremacists have killed more people that Islamic jihadists lately. The numbers aren’t disputed. It’s fact.


15 posted on 10/30/2019 1:57:42 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: yesthatjallen

I guess he means Al Queda, ISIS and the Taliban.


16 posted on 10/30/2019 1:57:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You can vote your way into socialism but you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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To: Zhang Fei

my email to him

REALLY!??!??!!?!? “WHITE SUPREMACIST” TERROR GROUPS ARE WHAT YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT????? ARE WE PICKING ON POOR ISIS?!!?!?!?!? HOW DID YOU WIN HERE?!??!

YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE REAL WORLD AND NOT WORRY ABOUT BEING PC.
My friends and family are DISGUSTED!!!!
And VERY disappointed. 
What? are you worried there is not equal distribution of terror?!?!!?!?
should there be quotas???
what a disgraceful performance!!!
smh


17 posted on 10/30/2019 1:58:41 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: Vigilanteman

These types of crimes are categorized by ideology of the perpetrator, not by the color of your skin. If you have a white kid become a radicalized Islamist in prison and he kills an infidel, that crime is classified as a radical Islam crime.


18 posted on 10/30/2019 1:59:45 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: dp0622

[WHAT THE MOTHER #### IS THIS GUY DOING REPRESENTING STATEN ISLAND?!!?!?!

IT’S BECAUSE OF ALL THE RUSSIANS AND ALBANIANS AND OTHER GROUPS IN THE BROOKLYN PART THAT HE WON!!!]


In 2020, Rose’s (R) opponent will presumably have the advantage of being able to cite his far-left lockstep (D) voting record.


19 posted on 10/30/2019 2:00:37 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Law enforcement is finding that a lot of these "lone wolf" white supremacist mass shooters are influenced by overseas groups, but they are not directly ordered to carry out these attacks by these groups.

Designating overseas white supremacist groups as terror groups would allow the FBI to prosecute Americans who give these groups material support, which includes spreading their message online.

20 posted on 10/30/2019 2:02:44 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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