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The slow death of a once great Republic.
1 posted on 11/07/2019 9:07:55 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So if your election looks like this:

Republican: 49%
Democrat: 46%
Green Party: 3%
Socialist Workers Party: 1%

In today’s paradigm the Republican would win.

In ranked choice the Green Party and SWP voters would have selected the Democrats as their second choice. Hence all of those votes would swing to the Dem, giving him the win.

THAT is why they freakin’ love this system.


2 posted on 11/07/2019 9:10:44 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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If Kentucky did this Matt Bevin would be governor rn and if the US did this Bill would have lost to HW


3 posted on 11/07/2019 9:11:05 AM PST by socalgop
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It’s another “reform” that will move politics further and further Left just like top two in California that was sold to voters as a way to moderate the candidates from each party. All it did was eliminate the Republican choice.


4 posted on 11/07/2019 9:12:53 AM PST by newzjunkey (Vote Giant Meteor in 2020)
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This will kill democracy.


5 posted on 11/07/2019 9:13:32 AM PST by kaehurowing
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What happens when “None of the Above”. wins?


7 posted on 11/07/2019 9:14:11 AM PST by Don Corleone (The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
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One way to counter this is to vote for your top choice and then list the worst, unelectable candidates as 2, 3, 4, 5, etc.

This will dilute the pool of second-tier candidates.

9 posted on 11/07/2019 9:18:26 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Pick a Democrat, any Democrat


12 posted on 11/07/2019 9:20:35 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is a terrible system. Why bother to vote at all?


15 posted on 11/07/2019 9:24:36 AM PST by livius
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This is preposterous. It means EXACTLY that those who vote for bad candidates get an automatic re-vote, effectively voiding one-person/one-vote.


16 posted on 11/07/2019 9:25:55 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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Here in California we don’t have ranked choice, but it does wind up that way in one sense.

When you have Republicans running against Democrats, the two who receive the most votes, are on the general election ballot.

So while there was a Republican primary winner, that winner may not be on the ballot, if the top two democrats receive more votes.

When it comes to voting for US Senator for instance, there is no Republican on the general election ballot anymore.

It really is a one party state.


17 posted on 11/07/2019 9:26:35 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Pledge: "...and to the Democracy for which it stands..." I give up. Use the democRat meme...)
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Is this even Constitutional??


19 posted on 11/07/2019 9:27:10 AM PST by gimme1ibertee (Yeah, let's GO THERE. I'm ready...)
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“This popular electoral system ...”


So a method used by one of the 50 states, and now by a US city is “popular”. Reminds me a little of how a minority party in Russia named itself “Bolshevik”—majority; and named the majority party “Menshevik”—minority.


21 posted on 11/07/2019 9:27:47 AM PST by hanamizu
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Correct


23 posted on 11/07/2019 9:28:06 AM PST by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
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This is another method for Democrats to cheat. Republicans mark their candidate in column 1 and return their ballot. The Democratic polling agents then fill in box 2, 3, etc for their candidates on the Republican’s form.


25 posted on 11/07/2019 9:29:30 AM PST by Mozzafiato
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so they will get to choose between two commie/nazi-style far far leftist D candidates every election

tweedledee and tweedledumb

just like in the once-great state of Californication

a permanent far leftist LOCK on public offices, governmental power

Soroz’s wet dream come true.


26 posted on 11/07/2019 9:31:43 AM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not , born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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What the article does not mention is that this is only for primaries not the general election.


27 posted on 11/07/2019 9:32:06 AM PST by FewsOrange
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Unconstitutional - it violates one man, one vote.

Needs to be challenged in the Supreme Court.

Of course, Roberts will see it the democrat way.


29 posted on 11/07/2019 9:34:15 AM PST by oldbill
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This has positive and negative- I think eliminating the last place candidates and voting again would be better.


31 posted on 11/07/2019 9:36:24 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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Don’t think it matters. Even Indiana is turning blue. Our Indianapolis D mayor won reelection 71-28, the democrats won 6 more seats on the city council four, had been GOP for years, three historically republican towns in suburban Indianapolis went heavily democrat, Columbus is now democrat for the first time in 36 years. I fully expect that next year my district which has been republican since the 70’s will go democrat. Our republican Rep is retiring and the democrats have three young candidates running. Two college educated millennial women and a millennial Gay guy. The republicans are going to run an old 50ish white guy. It won’t be pretty. Hamilton County, which up until 2018 was listed as one of the reddest counties in America is the county all those new democrats got elected in. The change is driven by an influx of young techy types who work for companies like Salesforce and Infosys. They are well paid, college educated, deeply irreligious, mostly white, predominantly female, despise anybody with an R behind their name and solidly progressive. Think AOC with a brain.

The republicans worst nightmare is coming true. The millennials are becoming politically active. They are voting and running for office. And they are not conservative or republican. We my have one more election to win, but by 2024 the good times are over. Demographics and 20+ years of propaganda disguised as education are catching up to us


38 posted on 11/07/2019 9:43:30 AM PST by redangus
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Throughout history, once the people can vote themselves money from the treasury, the nation is doomed.

We allowed ‘welfare’, and income taxes to pay for it. Nowhere was there taxation without representation in the constitution.


40 posted on 11/07/2019 9:48:27 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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