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DACA lands before Supreme Court: Showdown over Trump bid to end ‘Dreamer’ program
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Posted on 11/11/2019 6:48:27 AM PST by Java4Jay

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To: Java4Jay

Stop pinning hopes that SCOTUS will rule constitutionally.


61 posted on 11/11/2019 8:46:15 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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To: Magnum44; kabar
This is pretty clear cut constitutionally. No congressionally passed law.

The government isn't asking SCOTUS to rule on constitutionality - ostensibly because they want to wind DACA down gradually rather than have it end abruptly based on a SCOTUS ruling.

Their argument is the decision to rescind DACA is one the agency can make and it isn't reviewable by the courts.

The DACA supporters say it is reviewable because the agency violated the Administrative Procedure Act by being arbitrary and capricious in their decision making.

This is the same basic argument that killed the census question too, BTW.

62 posted on 11/11/2019 9:00:26 AM PST by semimojo
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To: Java4Jay

It’s not complicated.
It was never legal.
Obama had no authority to do what he did (even if he was a legitimate President, which he wasn’t)


63 posted on 11/11/2019 9:05:59 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Java4Jay
This should be a slam dunk.
64 posted on 11/11/2019 9:06:40 AM PST by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: MNJohnnie

We left the Constitution behind on Usurpation Day, January 20, 2009

DACA was not even an executive order, it was a policy memo put out by DHS.


65 posted on 11/11/2019 9:15:20 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Regulator
Trump has every right to rescind it.

While you are 100% correct, we still have to worry about the pix of john roberts and the baby...animals.

66 posted on 11/11/2019 9:17:32 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist mooselimb savages, today.)
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To: Java4Jay

Obama did DACA with an EXECUTIVE ORDER...Congress didn’t pass anything & no law was signed.

Supremes better pay attention to the rue structure of laws.


67 posted on 11/11/2019 9:47:31 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Java4Jay
Oral Arguments for this should be interesting.
68 posted on 11/11/2019 10:10:08 AM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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To: Lurker
Roberts will rule it a tax.

Of course he will.

69 posted on 11/11/2019 10:17:36 AM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: HamiltonJay
However, the supreme court has shown repeatedly that doesn’t matter if they desire an outcome they will invent a way to justify no matter how unconstitutional or abhorrent it is.

You don't know how accurate you are.


A couple of years ago, a major media publication (might have been Newsweek or NY Times) published an article about the Obamacare decision. An insider had clearly given vast details of what went on behind the scenes to the reporter.

It was shocking.

Roberts called a "meeting" - and the justices sat around and discussed the POLITICAL implications of overturning Obamacare.

It is a myth that the court weighs decisions in light of what the Constitution actually says.

70 posted on 11/11/2019 10:25:10 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Theoria

It peeves me. Lol


71 posted on 11/11/2019 10:30:44 AM PST by sheana
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To: eyeamok

Reverse an EO of the sacred JFK? Why that’s as unthinkable as disagreeing with a lib—oh, wait.


72 posted on 11/11/2019 10:42:27 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Kozak

You nailed it. Both congress and the president are sovereigns.


73 posted on 11/11/2019 11:11:31 AM PST by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: Java4Jay

Trump can be the Hispanic Hero if they rule in his favor and he forces Congress to make a good deal.


74 posted on 11/11/2019 11:35:33 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Java4Jay
What about all of those Executive Orders, that were issued by Hussein, that rescinded previous Executive Orders of Bush?


75 posted on 11/11/2019 12:37:51 PM PST by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: Logical me

My pet conspiracy theory is that Roberts is being blackmailed.


76 posted on 11/11/2019 2:00:17 PM PST by Pining_4_TX ("Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." ~ H.L. Mencken)
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To: Religion and Politics

DACA is a memo, not an executive order, no matter how much the Federal machinery pretends otherwise.


77 posted on 11/11/2019 2:32:47 PM PST by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: Brown Deer
What about all of those Executive Orders, that were issued by Hussein, that rescinded previous Executive Orders of Bush?

DACA is NOT an executive order.

It's a memorandum. The Democrats, the Republicans and the Federal judiciary are all just pretending that it's an executive order.

78 posted on 11/11/2019 2:35:04 PM PST by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: ridesthemiles
Executive memorandum, not an executive order.

Our Lords and Masters in both parties and the judiciary are just pretending that it's an executive order.

Kind of like they're pretending that Trump did something impeachable.

79 posted on 11/11/2019 2:38:42 PM PST by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Roberts isn’t being blackmailed he has ALWAYS been a Lib GWB knew he was a lib he chose someone without much in rulings so he could fool the base AND he did just that GWB has NEVER been conservative and we ALL know that now!!! EVERYONE on this site should know without a doubt that Roberts will rule with the Libs and NOT because of being blackmailed!!!


80 posted on 11/11/2019 3:13:06 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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