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1 posted on 11/12/2019 8:19:49 AM PST by gattaca
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“Everything about socialism is sham and affectation.” - 23.11 Ch23; Economic Harmonies; Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850)


2 posted on 11/12/2019 8:22:18 AM PST by PGalt
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Material witness? Not sure there actually is one with all the charges and accusations and counter charges and call outs for using third and fourth hand information. Were I an AG or judge it would be tossed with prejudice.


4 posted on 11/12/2019 8:23:38 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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C’mon folks, call “impeachment” what it REALLY is....a “kangaroo court”.


5 posted on 11/12/2019 8:33:17 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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The Pubbies don’t have the stones to stand up and challenge and, if they did, they would be painted fraudulently in the media. They are being steamrolled by the Rats and media.


6 posted on 11/12/2019 8:36:40 AM PST by day10 (You'll get nothing and like it!)
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It’s a fraud either way.


7 posted on 11/12/2019 8:50:04 AM PST by bwest
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What do Democrats, Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff & Jerrold Nadler have in common with Adolf Hitler & Joseph Stalin and their justice trail system? “Only one side gets heard”!!! What a farce....the American people should be ashamed that they let this Pelosi/Schiff, Kangaroo Court continue. Democrats, Pelosi, Schiff & Nadler should be jailed...period!!!

Every person that is accused of committing a crime has the right to face his accuser...period. The Whistle Blower must be put on the testimony stand...now!!!

Good morning, “NAZI, Communist, Fascist, Democrats, Criminals, Pelosi, Schiff & Nadler!!!


8 posted on 11/12/2019 8:52:23 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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Sen. Rand Paul: "You've heard of the Constitution, right? The Constitution has the Sixth Amendment."

Paul went on to explain that the Sixth Amendment included the right of the accused to confront any accusers, suggesting that allowing the whistleblower to remain anonymous would then be a de facto denial of Trump’s Sixth Amendment rights.

Republican South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham also argued that the whistleblower was not guaranteed anonymity, telling reporters, “The whistleblower statute was never meant to give you anonymity. It was meant to allow you to come forward without being fired.”

Read the entire article at The Daily Caller: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10d52uEgxg165jHE0KBwLsRJg9jn5Icdj4d078u2S1eA/edit

Sixth Amendment:

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.


10 posted on 11/12/2019 9:27:54 AM PST by Grampa Dave (vIf we have a civil war, the winners will be our enemies: Iran, China, Mexico, & Deep State thugs!)
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Expect democrats to respect any part of due process? I don’t. They expect to find him guilty, with the media hiding the ugly process from the public.

The media will refuse to tell the folks anything the dems do that is unfair. The folks will turn on the 6 PM news and hear only that side of the story.

Expect fairness? Remember what they did to Kavanaugh and Gorsuch?

The best revenge is to reelect TRUMP. I will go to the polls to vote if I have to crawl to the place on my hands and knees, dodging traffic, dragging my bloody stumps the whole 4 miles to triumphantly cast my vote against the destruction of this country.


11 posted on 11/12/2019 9:40:41 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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probable cause to believe Hunter Biden committed a crime under US law, for example selling influence of his Vice President father or perceived influence, or that his father knew this was happening and it would benefit his son, then under the US-Ukrainian anti-public corruption treaty of 2000, seeking relevant information would be legal.

I am not sure probable cause is the standard here. It should be, but the FBI made the argument that investigating Trump could be done as a counter-intelligence matter on 'reasonable suspicion'. Second, the appearance of corruption does exist - Hunter was being paid by Burisma, Burisma was investigated by Ukrainian prosecutor, Burisma lobbied the US Government to intervene and mentions Hunter and his business partner are on their board, Biden then flies to Ukraine and blackmails Ukraine into firing the prosecutor investigating his son's benefactor. It is a 'quid pro quo' using US foreign aid that directly benefits his family. That may be probable cause or at least reasonable suspicion. And the clincher is that the POTUS did not ask for information personally he asked that Ukraine cooperate with the Department of Justice which is the proper place for such investigations of corruption to occur.

12 posted on 11/12/2019 9:42:17 AM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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It’s the House Republicans’ job to defend Trump at this point. If they are not defending Trump that tells me that either they believe he is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors or that they somehow think this will win them points in the next election (nope).


13 posted on 11/12/2019 10:29:49 AM PST by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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When/if the witnesses ARE heard, this impeachment effort will STILL be a fraud.


16 posted on 11/12/2019 11:16:18 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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