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Australia's most decorated soldier... tells potential recruits NOT to join the armed forces
Daily Mail (Australia/UK) ^ | 15th November 2019 | Jackson Barron

Posted on 11/14/2019 4:16:20 PM PST by naturalman1975

Australian war hero Ben Roberts-Smith said he would not encourage potential recruits to join the armed forces because of the lack of support veterans receive.

The former soldier believes the heads of the Australian Defence Force are putting themselves ahead of servicemen and not providing the assistance that veterans need.

The 41-year-old told The Daily Telegraph he would not endorse young people going into the military without a major shakeup in leadership.

'My opinion is the Australian Defence Force needs good young Australians… but when you look at what is happening at the moment it gives me pause to think, ''Is it a good option for somebody to do that'', knowing that at any point you could be injured, leave and not be supported in a way that is expected and that you should be supported because you have chosen to serve,' Mr Roberts-Smith said.

'So from my perspective at the moment, it would take serious consideration before you would be advising people to (join the ADF).'

Mr Roberts-Smith spent 20 years in the Australian Defence Force from 1996-2015 and is the country's most decorated servicemen, having earned a Victoria Cross and Medal of Gallantry.

He believes the Australian military is being let down by a culture of self-protection from senior advisers.

Mr Roberts-Smith claims veterans needs are being neglected by bosses whose greater concern is protecting their own careers.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; benrobertssmith
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1 posted on 11/14/2019 4:16:20 PM PST by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

Sounds like us during Obama reign of error.


2 posted on 11/14/2019 4:18:25 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Bonemaker

Bingo....you beat me to it.


3 posted on 11/14/2019 4:21:27 PM PST by Kevin in California
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To: Bonemaker

With the exception of Reagan and Trump, the same could be said of every president since LBJ, I suppose.


4 posted on 11/14/2019 4:23:58 PM PST by ssaftler (Eric Ciaramella or Adam Schiff. Take your pick.)
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To: naturalman1975

About the middle of W I decided I would NOT encourage my Grandkids to join.

I did nothing to discourage them and when my younger GS wanted to join the CG, I was all for it. I would have been all for him joining the Marines..IF that is what HE wanted, just wasn’t going to encourage them.

I then found out that he had been on some sort of Ritalin while in school and the CG required 1 year of ‘clean’ living (what my daughter told me)...

I don’t have to tell anyone how whizzed I am/was that he had been on that crap BUT it surely did explain some of the mood swings I had noticed
(His father had/has some kind of anxiety problems so figured the boy had ‘inherited’ some problem)


5 posted on 11/14/2019 4:31:18 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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To: ssaftler

I’m eternally grateful that I went in in 1963...when America was still America.


6 posted on 11/14/2019 4:37:37 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: naturalman1975

Is that the VC he’s wearing?


7 posted on 11/14/2019 4:41:38 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: naturalman1975

ULTRA PARTIOT, here.

But what do I think..?

AGREE 101%...!

I’d admonish all to NOT protect the evil, occupying force that has taken over our amazing, good country.

Which will put you on trial if you do your job TOO well.

Being a citizen is a razor’s edge, now and I NEVER thought that would happen.


8 posted on 11/14/2019 4:43:21 PM PST by gaijin
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To: naturalman1975

Her look says, “my hubby can kick any one y’alls ass. probably twice.”


9 posted on 11/14/2019 4:44:47 PM PST by onona (Just tell me where to muster, I'll bring my shit)
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To: hanamizu

Article says he was awarded the VC, and that’s a cross-shaped medal on the left, so I guess that’s it.


10 posted on 11/14/2019 4:45:04 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others.)
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To: naturalman1975

The powers that be will not be happy with this soldier.He is right of course.Good looking couple.


11 posted on 11/14/2019 4:46:52 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: naturalman1975

Number of pairs of Birkenstocks owned: ZERO

Lib power level: MINUS 10,000

Credibility credits: INFINTE

(Victoria Cross is given MUCH less often than the CMOH)

12 posted on 11/14/2019 4:47:23 PM PST by gaijin
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13 posted on 11/14/2019 4:49:30 PM PST by gaijin
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To: naturalman1975

Without much knowledge of the Australian military, I would still tend to believe him than the military and government hierarchy. Veterans are given short shrift once they have done their duty. “Johnny, I hardly knew ya.”


14 posted on 11/14/2019 4:55:11 PM PST by kabar
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15 posted on 11/14/2019 4:58:51 PM PST by gaijin
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To: naturalman1975

20 year career and rises to... corporal?
Seems odd.


16 posted on 11/14/2019 5:02:05 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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I know that the VC is the Commonwealth's equivalent of our MoH...but are you saying that this man was placed on trial/court martialed?
17 posted on 11/14/2019 5:11:10 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: Gay State Conservative
The verbal/conceptual shorthand is that the VC and the CMOH are equivalent:

Eh....people will hate me for saying it but...they might NOT be.

I mean how many living VC winners are there...? I believe there might be three..?

It's given way less often than the CMOH.

This man was put on trial for all typd of PC-centric allegations of cruelty.

Very recently we had a case almost exactly like his, if not for Trump that guy's life would have turned out VERRRRY differently.

The military has ALWAYS been bureaucratic, it's just in the past 10 years ago that it's totally nuts.

Just slightly off topic:

ANYONE with recent experience in the US military will understand WHAT is happening in the photo below:

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"Fit to fight, any day and through the night..?" Maybe after a year on the treadmill.

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VIDEOS:

woman captain limping on march, hunched over

Brit firefighter can't knock down door

female soldier easily bested in boxing by marine

18 posted on 11/14/2019 5:20:01 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Bonemaker

Obama’s reign of terror has not ended in the military. The military I was in still stifles anti Islamic terror warnings at the War College, allows 100lb women into Ranger School and other Infantry units, provides for a satanic worship center at the Naval Academy, lack of pardons for war heroes called criminals under Obama’s Generals and more. My greatest disappointment in Trump is his lack of interest in repairing the great, great damage done to our military under Obama. Money is not the answer to correcting the PC rot still eating away our military strength.


19 posted on 11/14/2019 5:25:47 PM PST by Midwesterner53
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Diggers are total LIARS, dude, military's AWESOME..!

And that goes double for the leadership..!

While IN UNIFORM in a military hospital, I, a US Army doctor, formally lectured high-ranking, uniformed US Army officer audience on how JIHAD IS OKAY...!

DURING. A. WAR.

Negative reaction: ZIPPO...!

In my off-hours I went around base in flowing-robes, sandals and knit prayer skull beanie..!

All I was missing..?

A CAMEL and IED..!

Join up, they let you do ANYTHING..!

20 posted on 11/14/2019 5:32:59 PM PST by gaijin
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