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New Trump Rule Calls for Making Health-Care Rates Public
Newsmax ^ | November 15, 2019 | Newsmax

Posted on 11/15/2019 11:46:23 AM PST by re_tail20

New rules from the Trump administration on Friday would require insurers and hospitals to disclose upfront the actual prices for common tests and procedures to promote competition and push down costs.

The sweeping changes face stiff pushback from the health care industry and could be challenged in court. Even in an ideal world where information flows freely, patients and their families would have to deal with a learning curve to become comfortable with the intricacies of health care billing.

“This shadowy system has to change,” Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said. “The patient has to be in control.”

A final rule would apply to hospitals and a proposed regulation would apply to insurance plans. Disclosure requirements for hospitals would not take effect until 2021; for insurers, the timing is unclear. The requirements do not directly affect doctors.

Officials say the rules would shine a spotlight on the confusing maze of health care prices, allowing informed patients to find quality services at the lowest cost. Prices for an MRI scan for example can vary by hundreds of dollars depending on where it’s done.

Insurers would have to create individualized estimates of what patients would owe out-of-pocket due to deductibles and copayments.

Insurance companies and hospitals say the push for disclosure goes too far. They say the government would force them to publicly disclose rates they negotiate as part of private contracts normally beyond the purview of authorities.

Insurers also contend the plan could backfire, prompting providers that are accepting a bargain price to try to bid up what they charge if others are getting more. Azar called that “a canard,” saying transparency does not lead to higher prices in any other area of the economy.

If the industry goes to court, it could be a long time before consumers...

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1 posted on 11/15/2019 11:46:23 AM PST by re_tail20
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To: re_tail20

This kind of competition could kill insurance companies. It would drive down costs so much that insurance would be a bad deal for all but the most expensive and cutting edge treatments.


2 posted on 11/15/2019 11:48:08 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: re_tail20

Gonna be interesting watching the courts twist themselves into a pretzel coming up with a justification for why this info needs to be kept secret.


3 posted on 11/15/2019 11:50:07 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
First thought that occurred to me was “has he cleared this with the courts yet?”

After all, they’re the ones running the country.

4 posted on 11/15/2019 11:51:37 AM PST by daler
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To: cuban leaf

I’m not sure about that. I believe many (most?) states already have this kind of requirement for auto insurance.


5 posted on 11/15/2019 11:52:52 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: re_tail20

HOORAY Chief. More winning. Ain’t no ways tarred.


6 posted on 11/15/2019 11:58:16 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Alberta's Child

Well, you are REQUIRED to have auto insurance - if you want to drive on publicly supplied roads, just as you are required to have a license.


7 posted on 11/15/2019 12:00:53 PM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: re_tail20

This is a VERY GOOD thing.


8 posted on 11/15/2019 12:01:46 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: re_tail20

“The sweeping changes face stiff pushback from the health care industry.....”
Not to mention the Representatives and Senators who receive payola in return for giving the healthcare INDUSTRY carte blanche.


9 posted on 11/15/2019 12:05:30 PM PST by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: PGalt

A patient is expected to pay for a service.

They should know prior to agreeing to or having that service performed how much it will cost (with some variables).


10 posted on 11/15/2019 12:06:34 PM PST by uranium penguin
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Follow the money, find out which democrat screams the loudest about it


11 posted on 11/15/2019 12:06:38 PM PST by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: re_tail20

This is good. I was self-employed/insured for most of the last 20 years and since I was a cash customer, the physicals/basic tests I needed (blessed with only needing that) were negotiated up front and at a cheaper price than charged to those with insurance. My doctor was pretty cool about it, he made money and didn’t have to do any paper work.


12 posted on 11/15/2019 12:07:19 PM PST by Shark24
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To: cuban leaf

You’re required to have LIABILITY insurance. The regulations about posting rates for repairs relates to COLLISION and COMPREHENSIVE insurance, which is not required by law.


13 posted on 11/15/2019 12:11:50 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: uranium penguin

Stop making sense penguin. : )


14 posted on 11/15/2019 12:12:06 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Shark24

I expect it is good for the small stuff like that when you pay it yourself.

In the last two years my son ran up about five million dollars in medial expenses. It wouldn’t matter what the prices are for two reasons;

1. The insurance company pays for it so he doesn’t care.

2. If he had to pay it himself he couldn’t so he doesn’t care.


15 posted on 11/15/2019 12:12:12 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: re_tail20
Even in an ideal world where information flows freely, patients and their families would have to deal with a learning curve to become comfortable with the intricacies of health care billing.

"What do you mean, $10 for a single Tylenol? Can't I just bring one in from home instead?"

16 posted on 11/15/2019 12:12:49 PM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: re_tail20

“Disclosure requirements for hospitals would not take effect until 2021; for insurers, the timing is unclear.”

Why wait two years? Why not now? In two years every liberal federal judge will have ruled against it.


17 posted on 11/15/2019 12:16:08 PM PST by Colo9250
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To: Alberta's Child

Exactly.

That’s why I have only liability on one of my cars, Comprehensive on two others (lots of deer around here) And collision for the car I’m still making payments on.


18 posted on 11/15/2019 12:17:29 PM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Shark24
There was a famous story making the rounds in my neck of the woods about a guy who posted almost a day-by-day account of his dealings with the health care industry as he was looking to schedule a surgical procedure that was ultimately necessary but wasn’t time-sensitive (so he had time to weigh his options).

The bottom line was that the surgery was going to cost him $22,000 between the deductibles and copays under his insurance coverage. And this was coverage that was already costing him $800/month.

He eventually negotiated with the doctor and surgical facility directly and paid cash for it.

It cost him less than $8,000.

And he was able to afford it easily because he immediately canceled his medical insurance plan and saved himself $800 he was paying every month for "insurance coverage" that was completely useless to him.

19 posted on 11/15/2019 12:17:57 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: Colo9250
Why wait two years? Why not now?

Because most insurance carriers and hospitals probably already have contracts in place with rates for various procedures through the end of 2020.

20 posted on 11/15/2019 12:19:13 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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