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Scientists: Dishonest or Afraid?
Townhall.com ^ | November 20, 2019 | Walter E. Williams

Posted on 11/20/2019 4:49:16 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 11/20/2019 4:49:16 AM PST by Kaslin
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All you need to know about global warming and rising sea levels...

Obama just purchased a $16 million beach house.


2 posted on 11/20/2019 4:53:45 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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To: Kaslin

There’s no grant money to be had if you admit Global Warming is a hoax.


3 posted on 11/20/2019 4:55:45 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would be have noandards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Kaslin

When sea levels rise, they rise everywhere. The beaches I want to as a kid are the same now as they were then.


4 posted on 11/20/2019 4:57:14 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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Both.
5 posted on 11/20/2019 4:59:28 AM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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To: Kaslin

Paid off by special interests!


6 posted on 11/20/2019 5:01:09 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Kaslin

Dishonest. Afraid.

For sale.


7 posted on 11/20/2019 5:02:08 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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Not all scientists are dishonest and not all news reporters are leftists with an agenda

I'm sure there lots of honest "climate scientists" and unbiased MSM "reporters" < /sarcasm>

8 posted on 11/20/2019 5:02:49 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I’ve been staring at the tide at the nearest beach for three decades almost day and night looking for a move.

Boy do I feel silly.


9 posted on 11/20/2019 5:03:00 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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10 posted on 11/20/2019 5:05:16 AM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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I can name lots of honest climate people, there’s ..., wait, and there is .... hmmmm. Give me a minute, I am sure I can come up with a name, just need more time to think about it.


11 posted on 11/20/2019 5:06:26 AM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: Texas Eagle

In a nutshell...that the root of much of it.

There are ideologues who believe it root and branch, too...and getting grants is a nice byproduct for them.

But scientists who see it for the hooey it is are attacked and driven out of the educational bastions that are fostering that crap.

So, most of them who disagree with it simply shut up to save their jobs.

A GREAT book that discusses this aspect a little bit is “Red Hot Lies: How Global Warming Alarmists Use Threats, Fraud, and Deception to Keep You Misinformed” by Christopher Horner.


12 posted on 11/20/2019 5:06:59 AM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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not all news reporters are leftists with an agenda

True. Only 97% of them are

13 posted on 11/20/2019 5:07:57 AM PST by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: Yo-Yo

That is a great political cartoon...thanks for posting it!

So correct on a few different planes...


14 posted on 11/20/2019 5:09:26 AM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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To: from occupied ga

“Climate scientists” and “MSM reporters” like working.

They like money.

They like a roof over their head.

They like food in their stomachs.

They are human.

So—they must lie.

If this was the Middle Ages they would be getting their paycheck from the Church and would be leading the Inquisition.

It is up to us to understand human nature—and expose their lies.


15 posted on 11/20/2019 5:10:32 AM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: Kaslin

Scientists should be objective. They should search for the truth without bias. Science is not a matter for belief.

But it isn’t! Huge numbers of “scientists” are liberals who got into science to change the world. The Scientific American, a magazine that was once a respected, real science magazine, has become a liberal rag.


16 posted on 11/20/2019 5:11:41 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Not just the money...it’s the ease of data generation that draws so many in.

Lazy scientists can pick and choose data to come to a conclusion that is stated openly in the government grant because the grant application says the conclusion will be reached with the proper amount of money.


17 posted on 11/20/2019 5:13:11 AM PST by Immolumentor
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To: rlmorel

Amen to all that. Us Horner still around? Seems like he used to be a regular guest on Hannity and was often referenced by Rush.


18 posted on 11/20/2019 5:13:38 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would be have noandards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Yeah, but it’s funny how much “research” is necessary to “study” something that has already been “settled”.


19 posted on 11/20/2019 5:15:48 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would be have noandards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Scientists used to work in relative obscurity. Eventually a few names would pop up, like Pasteur, Curie, Einstein, Salk, etc., but unless they won a Nobel prize or came up with findings that led to something very substantive, no one really knew them except those who worked in the same field. That is no longer the case.

Now, ‘getting your name out there’, going to or organizing big conferences at which the scientific ‘stars’ are wined and dined, and becoming somewhat of a celebrity in your field is the draw. So, the science is less trustworthy now than it has been maybe ever.

This is also promoted by universities. The ‘leadership’ at these places are often political hacks with little understanding of what constitutes good science, and their criteria for whether someone is successful or not is the amount of grant money they bring in and how well known they are.

People like Mann are emblematic of the ‘connected’ and known science mafia who control way too much and who suppress competitors and those whose data conflict with their own.

So, yes, there are plenty of scientists who are dishonest and who will fudge or overstate data to further their careers, and there are scientists who are afraid of these people - because they can suppress or ruin your career.

20 posted on 11/20/2019 5:16:58 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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