Posted on 11/25/2019 11:18:12 PM PST by knighthawk
I heard that on Rush. Sounded like pretty calculated pass the buck CYA to me.
The Marlboro Marine ended his service and went back home to Kentucky. According to one profile I read a few years ago he has pretty bad PTSD.
but was convicted of posing with the corpse.
Guess those folks had never heard of or seen any footage from WW2 or the Korean War or Vietnam!
Trump should give him the vacant Secretary of the Navy job.
The military made him into a bad ass and then want to punish him for being a bad ass.
cut these warriors a LOT of slack
AMEN, I cannot imagine the horror they live with as most are kids that volunteer to enter hell.
It was sooooooo right the Secretary of the Navy was fired.
Gallagher was retiring anyway.
But the Secretary of the Navy, with the treasonous JAG community behind his back, wanted to make an example of Gallagher before he retired.
The “legal” community in each of the services have taken hold of each of them, and many of the bad things in the last ten years have happened due to commanders satisfying what the service lawyers want them to do. Just what Obama wanted.
He knows he is lucky because he had a CIC who had his back this time. Next time, the CIC might be another ObaMao clone.
I wonder if people have an idea how much the U.S. Navy spends to develop an effective SEAL? I read the book Seal Team Six by one such member and have just a little appreciation of how difficult and expensive it is to find and develop these assets.
“The man was acquitted on the serious stuff. All things considered, if the man wanted to continue in the Navy, the remaining infraction could be handled administratively. But, since he’s retiring, it ain’t no thing.”
Give him an Article 15, leave his Trident alone and let him retire with grace and dignity. That’s what should have happened.
“but was convicted of posing with the corpse.”
He only did what he saw in Full Metal Jacket. It wasn’t like he was collecting ears and making necklaces for his compadres.
The CNO needs to step up and clean house in his JAG corps and then have a “come to Jesus meeting” with Admiral Green about his need to retire to clear the decks for the new SECNAV. CNO sitting on his hands and hoping it goes away isn’t the answer.
It’s actually against the Geneva Conventions if the body in question is that of a lawful combatant under the terms of those conventions.But since the Conventions’ prohibitions are treated by terrorists as a manual on what to do rather than what to eschew, that shouldn’t be an issue.
was a uniformed "lawful combatant" according to
the Geneva Conventions.
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To my thinking, even an Article 15 is excessive given that the man is retiring. Article 15s and other administrative actions are not supposed to be punitive, they’re supposed to be disciplinary. And, concern for discipline ends upon retirement.
Think of Lt. General Stanley A. McChrystal. When he trash talked the Vice President of the United States, the President recalled him from Afghanistan and simply accepted his resignation (and retirement). McChrystal left the service with his rank, honors and benefits intact.
I suppose the Secretary of the Navy thinks he should be trusted with maintaining the good order and discipline of his branch of the service short of theater-level commanders (such as was McChrystal), and normally I suppose he is. But, the President is the commander-in-chief and has concerns above even the pay grade of the Secretary of the Navy.
I had a close family friend about six years my elder who was a marine sniper in Vietnam
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68/69
He had 100s of pics of dead VC and some NVA...and pics of some pretty bad stuff like trophies
Nobody said shit
That is especially true in the sandbox, as very few arabs fighting would be considered 'lawful combatants' under the terms of the Geneva Convention. There are rules in warfare for a reason. In general, the convention's declarations are the codification of rules of combat that had evolved over hundreds of years and were designed to, among other things, minimize the collateral damage done to civilian populations in war zones. Since mohammedans don't actually recognize the rules of civilized warfare, we really aren't bound by those rules when dealing with the scum.
There were no lawful enemy combatants in AFG from the outset, and no one to note in IRQ after the reduction of the Saddam Regime. All were non-uniformed, non-Hague or Geneva Convention combatants. They all are terrorist criminals, any found to be bearing arms against US personnel were are and always ought to be eliminated with prejudice.
We play by restrictive rules our enemy consider the norm.
We are the better for it, but it costs more.... Seeing the results of kinetic action on the field, being part of it is mentally survivable IF you know in your heart you did right.
The reason ( in my personal opinion) that we have so many PTSD diagnosis is that the institution wants it so, but that is off topic and for another thread.
The blood on (most) US combat troops’ hands is fully justifiable and most of the rest is excusable.
The problem in the military is the same problem in the civilian world - too many Leftist lawyers.
During and since Obama's reign, the JAG Offs by and large have assumed the mantle of political commissars in the services.
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