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1 posted on 11/27/2019 4:57:35 AM PST by Kaslin
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"Respect Needed for President Trump’s Pardons Presidency"

Fix'd! Republicans forever playing the short game.

2 posted on 11/27/2019 5:01:29 AM PST by chris37 (Where's Hunter?)
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It is a bit mystifying that liberals would be so resistant to presidential pardons when they were used so often by Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. Clinton famously pardoned a long list of his friends during his last evening in the White House, and his supporters did not protest.

Not really. Progressives do not believe in objective reality, truth, or the rule of law.

They believe in power, and that anything is justified to obtain and keep it.

3 posted on 11/27/2019 5:05:31 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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President Trump’s first pardon as a president was issued to Joe Arpaio, the Arizona sheriff who fought for years on the front lines against illegal immigration. Yet the ACLU persuaded a Clinton-appointed federal judge to ignore the pardon, and the Ninth Circuit is now considering Sheriff Joe’s appeal.

Arpiao is the one appealing and the judge ignored nothing. Legally accepting a pardon removes the consequences of a conviction but doesn't remove the conviction itself. Arpiao is in court trying to do that. It's unlikely he will be successful.

4 posted on 11/27/2019 5:05:42 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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Respect needed for [President] Trump’s pardons?

They don’t think he’s president That’s the problem. That and Obama fundamentally transformed RW pentagon. No way this kind of insubordination has been tolerated until now


6 posted on 11/27/2019 5:22:25 AM PST by stanne
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Presidential pardons of servicemen who put their own lives on the line in defense of our freedoms should receive heightened respect by all.

And those that commit treason, sedition or steal State secrets should be put away in a dark hole or hung

8 posted on 11/27/2019 5:27:01 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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The Secretary of the Navy, Richard Spencer, is a former Wall Street banker lacking in combat experience.

WTF. This is unbelievable. Effin Obama has ruined our military

9 posted on 11/27/2019 5:28:39 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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“The Secretary of the Navy, Richard Spencer, is a former Wall Street banker lacking in combat experience. His skills are not in hand-to-hand fighting against the enemy, but in navigating the bureaucracy of the Pentagon. “

And he slammed President Trump for “not understanding the roles/intricacies of hand to hand combat or need for good order and discipline” as he had zero first-hand knowledge of combat and is showing his ass in a display of total lack of good order and discipline....ironic.


11 posted on 11/27/2019 6:31:58 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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The lack of respect given to President Trump in connection with his relatively small number of presidential pardons is a disgrace.

The lack of respect is more that just a disgrace. The lack of respect given to President Trump is additional evidence of the unbridled, blind leftist hate for America.

Will these leftists destroy themselves with their obsession with destroying our President? For them the world has stopped. All they do is hate; will they drown In their own excrement? It is amazing to behold.

The President is exercising his rights to help the forgotten men and women of this country, unlike other Presidents who somehow made money through their selective pardons.

Maybe it is time to start pushing back against communists and Democrats who have no respect for our constitution, laws, and representative government.

12 posted on 11/27/2019 6:34:52 AM PST by olezip
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In the end, it was Spencer who showed lack of order and discipline and he still won’t shut up; book deal likely. Good riddance.


13 posted on 11/27/2019 6:35:31 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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Reports are that Navy SEAL Special Chief Eddie Gallagher’s platoon mutinied against him and prompted the overzealous prosecution of him for crimes he did not commit. He was nearly fully acquitted by a military jury in a system that rarely sides with an accused soldier or sailor.

I admit I am curious what Gallagher did that made his comrades in arms want to ruin him so much. That part of the story still seems odd.

14 posted on 11/27/2019 6:40:37 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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The principle of humane treatment requires that civilians be treated humanely at all times.Common Article 3 of the Geneva Convention prohibits violence to life and person (including cruel treatment and torture), the taking of hostages, humiliating and degrading treatment, and execution without regular trial against non-combatants, including persons hors de combat (wounded, sick and shipwrecked).

Military and civilians are entitled to respect for their physical and mental integrity, their honour, family rights, religious convictions and practices, and their manners and customs. This principle of humane treatment has been affirmed by the GC as a norm of customary international law, applicable in both international and non-international armed conflicts.

Chief Gallagher, as a senior NCO, and supervisor in an active armed conflict, is strongly required to stay within the guidelines of GC. And he is aware of its existence and has been ordered to stay within it. By his actions going public, he has placed our members in danger downrange to include military and civilians.

Remember the Alamo? Well our opponents will remember the actions taken by Chief Gallagher and will apply them to captured Americans using far worse actions like public be headings and torture.

Trump can pardon and take away the punishment, but he can’t take away the determination of guilt. Chief Gallagher is guilty of the articles under the UCMJ he violated.

Many of us have served and have gone to great pains, risked our life, risked the lives of our comrades, in order to uphold the values of this country, which include the fact that we hold ourselves to a higher standard when it comes to war and the law of war. And the idea that none of that matters at the end of the day is a slap in the face to all of us. That these people will be trotted out as heroes is a moral injury to every veteran.

And furthermore, commanders would start trying to avoid presidential interference by staying off his radar. It’s going to drive a lot of things underground that Trump is never going to hear about and I think the senior commanders within the services may just hide things from him. Or they may elect to not even take action. And then we are truly no better than the animals we make out to be our uncivilized opponents.

rwood


15 posted on 11/27/2019 7:12:15 AM PST by Redwood71
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