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Unprecedented Leaks Underscore Deep Discontent Inside China
The Federalist ^ | 12/02/2019 | Helen Raleigh

Posted on 12/02/2019 8:00:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 12/02/2019 8:00:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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"Only a week ago, The New York Times reported on the Xinjiang Papers, a 403-page collection of reportedly classified Chinese documents—including speeches by Chinese leader Xi Jinping and other Communist Party officials—on plans to carry out the mass incarceration of the Uyghur Muslim minority population in Xinjiang"

This is why... they are going against the left's favorite religion "of peace"

2 posted on 12/02/2019 8:03:36 AM PST by Mr. K
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RE: This is why... they are going against the left’s favorite religion “of peace”

While there are radicals existing in the Xin Jiang area, MOST of the Uyghurs are SECULAR Muslims. I’ve been in that area and they’re not even very devout.


3 posted on 12/02/2019 8:05:21 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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If China has spent $200 million in Taiwan to obtain influence, they almost certainly have spent billions in the U.S. to obtain influence.


4 posted on 12/02/2019 8:19:13 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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“they almost certainly have spent billions in the U.S. to obtain influence.”

And we know that Hunter Biden got at least one of those billions.


5 posted on 12/02/2019 8:22:27 AM PST by ryderann
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RE: If China has spent $200 million in Taiwan to obtain influence

There’s talk that the current opposition candidate in Taiwan, Han Kuo Yu ( who is open to talks with China instead of having a confrontational attitude like the current President) is under the pocket of the Chicoms, an accusation he vehemently denies.

But then, all of this information came from the defecting spy, William Wang. The Aussies are very skeptical about everything this young man says.


6 posted on 12/02/2019 8:30:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Back in 2003 Hu Jintao addressed Australia’s parliament and tacitly claimed Australia as Chinese.

“Back in the 1420s, the expeditionary fleets of China’s Ming Dynasty reached Australian shores.

For centuries, the Chinese sailed across vast seas and settled down in what they called Southern Land, or today’s Australia.

They brought Chinese culture to this land and lived harmoniously with the local people, contributing their proud share to Australia’s economy, society and its thriving pluralistic culture.”

https://www.smh.com.au/national/full-text-hus-speech-20031024-gdhnfs.html


7 posted on 12/02/2019 8:35:48 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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RE: They brought Chinese culture to this land and lived harmoniously with the local people, contributing their proud share to Australia’s economy, society and its thriving pluralistic culture.”

So, why didn’t they stay?


8 posted on 12/02/2019 8:37:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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In the Hundred-Year Marathon, China's long term strategy to dominate the globe is laid forth.

Spending lots of money to purchase influence inside of regimes is deemed much cheaper than using military force.

9 posted on 12/02/2019 8:38:08 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Here’s a more relevant question -— is it Hu Jin Tao’s contention that whoever stepped foot in a place ( as vast as Australia ) has a claim to own the place?

Granted there were Native American Indians living in this land we now call the USA — but WHO actually claimed to own the ENTIRE lower 48 plus Alaska among the Indian tribes?

They were busy warring with each other and enslaving one another.

I am not familiar with the history of aborigines PRIOR to the arrival of Europeans so I do not know if one tribe lived in peace and harmony with another tribe then.


10 posted on 12/02/2019 8:42:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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RE: Spending lots of money to purchase influence inside of regimes is deemed much cheaper than using military force

When I showed this strategy to a college professor friend, he simply asked the rhetorical question -— wasn’t this strategy also similar to America’s prior to the emergence of China?


11 posted on 12/02/2019 8:44:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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The age old strategy of the Middle Kingdom. You don’t have to necessarily physically occupy the barbarian states (everyone who is not China!) you just need to control their behavior.


12 posted on 12/02/2019 8:44:12 AM PST by Reily
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They have 1.2 billion people to feed and about 800 million poor people and pressure is going to be increasing as they’ve had major problems with their food supplies

There are 300 million Christians in China that are very sick of being oppressed and I would bet it for majority of the population there feels the same


13 posted on 12/02/2019 8:45:05 AM PST by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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“Here’s a more relevant question -— is it Hu Jin Tao’s contention that whoever stepped foot in a place ( as vast as Australia ) has a claim to own the place?”

From Chinazi point of view, yes. It, at the least, provides rationalization.

Why else would he say something so ludicrous?


14 posted on 12/02/2019 8:45:27 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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RE: This is why... they are going against the left’s favorite religion “of peace”

While there are radicals existing in the Xin Jiang area, MOST of the Uyghurs are SECULAR Muslims. I’ve been in that area and they’re not even very devout.

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What’s going on in that area is what’s always gone on in that empire we call China. Many many different peoples, and they’re all Han now.

That didn’t happen on accident.


15 posted on 12/02/2019 8:46:01 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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RE: Many many different peoples, and they’re all Han now.

I’m trying to understand this statement. How are Uyghurs considered Han now?


16 posted on 12/02/2019 8:47:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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RE: They have 1.2 billion people to feed and about 800 million poor people and pressure is going to be increasing as they’ve had major problems with their food supplies

Make that 1.386 billion (as at 2017)


17 posted on 12/02/2019 8:49:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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RE: Many many different peoples, and they’re all Han now.

I’m trying to understand this statement. How are Uyghurs considered Han now?

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I was talking about the rest of China. What’s happening to the Uyghurs now has happened to every other major non Han population in the Chinese empire throughout its history.

Notice:

The Chinese aren’t just wholesale slaughtering them all. Many of the women are being left and Han men are being moved in with them as their new state provided husbands. Two birds, one stone with that.

Helps fix the fubar of the one child policy and the massive over abundance of males.

Begins the genetic replacement process.

If China didn’t have the one child policy fubar, then there’d be state provided “herd bulls” going house to house impregnating the women whether the women wanted it or not.


18 posted on 12/02/2019 8:54:40 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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RE: Helps fix the fubar of the one child policy and the massive over abundance of males.

Two questions.

1) I thought we now have a 2-child policy.

2) Setting #1 above aside.... are/were the Uyghurs ( and maybe Tibetans ) EXEMPTED from the one-child policy?


19 posted on 12/02/2019 8:56:53 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Really?


20 posted on 12/02/2019 8:59:21 AM PST by CPT Clay (Q sent me)
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