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Fraud in Higher Education
Townhall.com ^ | December 4, 2019 | Walter E. Williams

Posted on 12/04/2019 3:50:12 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: A_perfect_lady; PTBAA

” So until conservatives get off their butts and stop catcalling from the sidelines and talking about what a great job they’d do if it weren’t beneath them, nothing is going to change.”
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PTBAA is correct. The K-12 system is corrupt and it HURTS children spiritually, emotionally, and sometimes physically. Public K-12 schooling was the nation’s first socialist entitlement. They can NOT be reformed.

Could a gulag be reformed by having conservative guards?


41 posted on 12/05/2019 4:46:30 AM PST by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: TexasFreeper2009

If you want to make huge money and have opportunities given to you then the Ivy League is the place to go. Sucks but it is true. All colleges are not the same.


42 posted on 12/05/2019 4:51:02 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: wintertime
Just because it's paid for by taxes doesn't make it inherently liberal. We have a military paid for by taxes don't we? The nature of it is made up by the attitude of the humans who steer it, and if conservatives took it over, they could make it like the military.

I don't usually bother answering you because I think you're a self-righteous, hysterical dingbat. But that argument of yours deserves at least one reply. It's an EXCUSE TO DO NOTHING.

43 posted on 12/05/2019 5:30:37 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: central_va

I am sure they appreciate you helping spread their propaganda.

ROFL

when you can attract the smartest people in your generation to come to your college.. you could teach them nothing and they would STILL become some of the most powerfull and wealthy in America when they grow up.

As long as they can maintain the myth that they are better, the best will continue to go and perpetuate the myth.


44 posted on 12/05/2019 6:13:39 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The way the system works graduates of the Ivy League and a handful of a few other colleges runs the country. I hate that but it is true. Its an oligarchy. I wish it weren’t so.


45 posted on 12/05/2019 6:15:46 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: FormerFRLurker

There is a movement to unionize graduate students. If that succeeds Profs can’t be far behind.


46 posted on 12/05/2019 6:17:31 AM PST by Reily
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To: Elsie

Exactly!


47 posted on 12/05/2019 6:20:01 AM PST by Reily
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To: central_va

I’ve be around Ivy League grads & cow college grads all my professional life. I see no difference in job performance. Sometimes I think cow college grads are slightly better, they accept mistakes and learn from them. (Though that conclusion may be due to my personal bias! - I’m a cow college grad!)

You do go to the Ivys for the education you go for the contacts. Therefore in that regard I agree with you.


48 posted on 12/05/2019 6:26:55 AM PST by Reily
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To: Reily
I’ve be around Ivy League grads & cow college grads all my professional life. I see no difference in job performance. Sometimes I think cow college grads are slightly better, they accept mistakes and learn from them. (Though that conclusion may be due to my personal bias! - I’m a cow college grad!)

That's the problem. They are not better but they get the BEST OPPORTUNITIES handed to them ( to screw up ). Go to a state university and see how many fortune 500 companies RECRUIT you. If you are not in the top 3% of grads then none.

A 2.0 GPA Ivy league grad will get recruited by wall street, F 500 etc just to put that on their corporate resume.. Life is not fair....

49 posted on 12/05/2019 6:34:10 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I am spreading truth. It sucks but that is the way it is.


50 posted on 12/05/2019 6:35:09 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Reily

I’m not sure they would have a case for unionization though. College profs already have protection against arbitrary firing through their tenure; they don’t need more protection and everyone, including the big donor alumni who actually pay most of the university’s bills, knows it.


51 posted on 12/05/2019 6:59:27 AM PST by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: Reily

I really wish you could edit posts!

TYPO

“...You do go to the Ivys for the education you go for the contacts. Therefore in that regard I agree with you. ....”

Should be

You DON’T go to the Ivys for the education you go for the contacts. Therefore in that regard I agree with you.


52 posted on 12/05/2019 7:01:08 AM PST by Reily
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To: central_va

Depends on what you major in.


53 posted on 12/05/2019 7:02:24 AM PST by Reily
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To: FormerFRLurker

Well as someone pointed out earlier there is an effort to unionize profs. ( I hadn’t heard of it!) I did know about the effort to unionize grad students.

I am almost sympathetic since I was once a grad student! Below minimum wage pay. My big pet peeve - if you’re in the sciences and you do lab work low concern for lab safety. (I could tell personal stories!)


54 posted on 12/05/2019 7:09:08 AM PST by Reily
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To: A_perfect_lady

No!....It is....NOT....acceptable for conservatives to indoctrinate other people’s children unless they have contracted with those parents in a private and mutually agreed upon manner.

It is impossible for any school to be religiously, culturally, or politically neutral. By definition, conservatives would not want to impose,( by force of government police and court threat), their non-neutral worldview on any citizen’s child.

Private schools ( filled with students with satisfied parents) can be found with a Google search. Private armies cannot be found on Google, therefore, the military and K-12 schooling are not analogous.

Re: “dingbat, self-righteous, and hysterical”

This is personal insult. I am certain that as a “professional” you would never...never...never...use personal insult against your emotional immature and captive students.


55 posted on 12/05/2019 9:16:06 AM PST by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: wintertime

I am so sick of you. You just spout your stupid dogma like a mindless dog barking, every single time. I swear, one day I will learn not to expect anything reasonable from you.


56 posted on 12/05/2019 5:43:41 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: A_perfect_lady

More personal attack.


57 posted on 12/06/2019 5:51:11 AM PST by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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