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IG report lays out compelling evidence FBI misled FISA court in Russia case, sources say
johnsolomonreports.com ^ | 12/9/2019 | ADMIN

Posted on 12/09/2019 9:21:30 AM PST by bitt

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To: bitt

Did not read. Is report a nothing burger as expected?


61 posted on 12/09/2019 9:47:34 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Lurkinanloomin

IG doesn’t indict. As you full well know. So just stop with the shite-posting every time.


62 posted on 12/09/2019 9:51:43 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: cgbg

can we expect the end result to be..

A Harshly worded memo???

The horror!! The Shame!!


63 posted on 12/09/2019 9:52:39 AM PST by uranium penguin
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To: cgbg
The new word today is “error”.

“Your honor, my client’s plot to overthrow the President was an error.”

____________

Right .... sedition in now a series of errors.

The country is sick and near death.

Everyone needs to wake the F. up.

64 posted on 12/09/2019 9:54:01 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: bitt

Where is John Roberts?


65 posted on 12/09/2019 9:54:42 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: KeyLargo

It isnt out yet.

These are just posts projecting conclusions based whatever they think such and such will say or do based on whatever.


66 posted on 12/09/2019 9:55:25 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: bitt
It's not out yet
https://oversight.gov/reports
67 posted on 12/09/2019 9:56:50 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Jane Long

Durham won’t be producing a report, though. He will either get indictments or he won’t.


68 posted on 12/09/2019 10:02:35 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: PGalt

It takes some criminals to raze a republic.

The lie is the weapon used most often by the criminal.

No truth, no justice. No justice, no America.
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It took BOTH parties to abrogate the Constitution.

Obama is not a natural born citizen.

Words have meaning or the Constitution is an illusion.


69 posted on 12/09/2019 10:04:42 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Signalman

I hope this is explained to the American people since the majority does not know the legal process. And hope it is put in terms everyone understands.


70 posted on 12/09/2019 10:08:50 AM PST by LoveMyFreedom
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To: bitt
Inspectors General exist to protect their respective agencies, not to provide meaningful oversight.


71 posted on 12/09/2019 10:09:34 AM PST by LIConFem (I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept)
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To: bitt

Meanwhile Trump is the evil one. This is sickening but not suprising. Civil war is the only solution.


72 posted on 12/09/2019 10:11:29 AM PST by HighSierra5
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To: shelterguy

“The IG doesn’t have the authority to make indictments”
Correct. However I believe he does have the authority to recommend indictments.


73 posted on 12/09/2019 10:12:55 AM PST by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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To: bitt

I’m really not sure what the point of this article is when the report is expected out in a few hours.


74 posted on 12/09/2019 10:14:43 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: a little elbow grease
The new word today is “error”. “Your honor, my client’s plot to overthrow the President was an error.” ____________ Right .... sedition in now a series of errors.

The New York Times and Washington Post will 'buy the excue' because they always stand with white liberal 'elites' against the rest of us. Must be nice to be a powerful thug and have the press kissing your butt...

75 posted on 12/09/2019 10:19:21 AM PST by GOPJ (Enemy combatants have more rights than this kangaroo Court gave our President.)
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To: Robert DeLong
The report is expected to conclude the FBI’s decision to open a counterintelligence probe of the Trump campaign’s possible ties to Russia in 2016 was adequately predicated but that its subsequent reliance on the so-called Steele dossier and execution of FISA warrants to assist the probe were problematic.

My layman's understanding is that the threshold for launching a counterintelligence investigation is rather low. The FBI gets a whiff of suspicious behavior, or a report from a source thought to be credible, and it checks it out. It may well be that Horowitz acknowledged this fact, and that this is what the leakers and the media are madly spinning.

BUT: then we come to "errors and omissions." An American citizen can't simply be assumed to be guilty and surveilled without evidence. Rumor, innuendo, and uncorroborated hearsay aren't enough. The question is not whether the opening of a probe was warranted; the question is whether the move to surveillance and wiretapping was warranted. That is a separate question.

If this is all about Carter Page -- Naval Academy grad, former Navy intelligence officer, a past target of Russian recruitment efforts, a cooperator with the FBI in nailing said Russians, etc. -- one should assume, absent some smoking gun, that he was a good guy. A counterintelligence probe should have begun by interviewing Page himself. That wasn't done. He was treated as a hostile target from the beginning, apparently solely on the basis of the Steele dossier.

So: Horowitz could well conclude that there was a basis for opening an investigation, but that there was no basis for surveillance, for wiretapping, for four warrants from the FISA court, etc. A decision to go Inspector Javert on an American citizen based on an unsubstantiated Steele dossier shouldn't be minimized as a mere error. And misrepresentation of the Steele dossier to the FISA Court, the claim that it was verified, and failure to disclose that it was a democrat oppo research trash heap shouldn't be dismissed as a mere "omission."

Horowitz's words will need to be parsed very carefully. He may well be an agency lifer who is attempting to minimize the scandal. He may well provide language that the democrats and the media can exploit. But the facts will stand independently of tricks of wording.

76 posted on 12/09/2019 10:20:22 AM PST by sphinx
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To: bitt

But at least they didn’t have bias while doing it.


77 posted on 12/09/2019 10:28:34 AM PST by pas
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To: Lurkinanloomin
It took BOTH parties to abrogate the Constitution.

ABSOLUTELY

The D.C. (Divide & Control) POWER CENTER has no regard for the Constitution.

Witness events

Approaching 2020

See Clearly

78 posted on 12/09/2019 10:34:59 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Jane Long

Yep. That road leads right back to the compromised Roberts , who, coincidentally, will be overseeing the Senate sham impeachment “trial”.
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Neat arrangement, isn’t it?


79 posted on 12/09/2019 10:38:16 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Red Badger

“Misled?

That’s what we used to call LYING...................”

Yeah. And doing it to a FISA court might be confused with breaking the law.
We were kind of expecting the white wash from this IG but the facts are still there that show rational folks this was an illegal witch hunt. And a real investigation could proabably track it right up to the kenyan.


80 posted on 12/09/2019 10:48:09 AM PST by bluescape (Mainstream Media-The guard dog that holds you down while the attacker has his way.)
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