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Texans fight turnover of lands to build border wall
NW Arkansas Democrat Gazette ^ | December 9th, 2019 | Arelis R. Hernandez (The Washington Post)

Posted on 12/09/2019 3:59:02 PM PST by BeauBo

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To: BeauBo

The offer is almost 8k per acre..... seems above reasonable to me


41 posted on 12/09/2019 5:09:17 PM PST by joe fonebone (Communists Need To Be Eliminated)
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To: 21twelve
West of the Missouri/Mississippi, water is everything...

East of that the local gov'ts want to charge for getting rid of "your" water.

42 posted on 12/09/2019 5:10:33 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“the courts have been clear that uncertainty about whether Congress has authorized eminent domain has to be resolved in favor of the property owner”

There is no such uncertainty.

Congress has passed laws that grant the Executive Branch broad authority to determine what is in the public interest, since the condemnation of 1888. Powers were expanded under the New Deal, and specific authority for taking border lands has been written into several laws.

It was widely done under the 2006 Secure Fence Act (the Bush-era barrier program).


43 posted on 12/09/2019 5:12:10 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: deport

I believe you are correct.


44 posted on 12/09/2019 5:12:53 PM PST by mkmensinger
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To: mkmensinger

That, sadly, isn’t enough. The easement also doesn’t allow construction vehicles off onto the land it’s next to, which is also room the project needs.


45 posted on 12/09/2019 5:13:36 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Mariner

see post 36.....i posted to wrong poster


46 posted on 12/09/2019 5:14:20 PM PST by ncpatriot
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To: BeauBo

No doubt there are many laws and expanded laws, but since you looked that up how about a link like I provided.


47 posted on 12/09/2019 5:16:50 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: BeauBo
- It was widely done under the 2006 Secure Fence Act (the Bush-era barrier program).

Different circumstance if Congress authorized funding.

48 posted on 12/09/2019 5:20:34 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

This reminds us that the Democrats were for border security before they were against it.


49 posted on 12/09/2019 5:22:23 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: BeauBo

People in our area lost paid for homes to build a damned football stadium for the Cowboys. You’re losing your ranch land so we can build a wall to protect the country.


50 posted on 12/09/2019 5:30:45 PM PST by tbw2
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To: tbw2

People are gaining, economic compensation opportunities.

I encourage all landowners to accept (injecting that for the petty Fanboys inventing crap about me).


51 posted on 12/09/2019 5:38:53 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: BeauBo

Pretty cut and dry in SCOTUS decisions... Any land within 100 miles of the border can be seized by the federal government for any purpose they deem required to provide for national security.

Come on, liberals, challenge it and open the door to reexaminations of such crappy SCOTUS decisions such as one man one vote and Roe v Wade...


52 posted on 12/09/2019 5:40:48 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: BeauBo

Remember, under W., it was TX. Republican Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson who allowed landowners to sue.


53 posted on 12/09/2019 5:44:35 PM PST by bgill
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To: BeauBo
Fine build the wall up to their property line. Then leave an opening so their property will become a damn highways of illegals.
54 posted on 12/09/2019 5:46:01 PM PST by glaseatr (Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep. A Co. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The Declaration of Taking Act, passed during the Roosevelt Administration, when they were hot to emulate their fascist role models in Europe (in Roosevelt’s very first cabinet meeting, they distributed books by Giovanni Gentile, who was called “the Philosopher of Facism”, and ghostwrote some of Mussolinis works).

The Declaration of Taking Act allows the Executive Branch to seize private property the same day, simply by issuing a “Declaration of Taking”. Former owners can go to the courts to settle the amount of compensation, but construction can begin immediately, enforceable at the barrel of a (police) gun.

The Trump Administration has gone to great lengths to contact property owners long in advance, and prepare careful appraisals for value.

Of the approximately 400 private property owners impacted in the approximately 100 miles contracted for construction in the RGV, some unknown number have already settled.

In the first few months of the administration, explicit guidance was given to ensure that adequate funds were budgeted for compensation of landowners - one of the big lessons learned from the Bush-era program. The overall cost estimate for the border wall was raised by several billion dollars during that period (upgraded specifications for the barrier system were also contributors to that increase).

In the end however, the Federal Government (Executive Branch) can pull up with a construction crew, a border Patrol Officer, and a piece of paper, any day of the week, and get right to work.


55 posted on 12/09/2019 5:49:30 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: mkmensinger
The US already owns a 60 foot easement along the entire border per a federal law signed by T. Roosevelt in 1907.

The person in the story lives about half a mile from the Rio Grande and they want to run the wall through his property.

56 posted on 12/09/2019 5:50:12 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: MrEdd

“Texans fighting Texans.”

Where whiskey is for drinking, and water is for fighting over....


57 posted on 12/09/2019 5:50:47 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“Different circumstance if Congress authorized funding.”

The funding for the construction in the Rio Grande Valley is from direct Congressional appropriations, not diverted from DoD.


58 posted on 12/09/2019 5:53:18 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

Good luck with that Taking Act. What I seen posted here, and from article on the web is that this is going to the courts. Supposedly for years.

You might tweet that to President Trump.
Would save a lot of judiciary hassle.


59 posted on 12/09/2019 5:55:19 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: BeauBo

If your a border state, the cartel money is much greater.


60 posted on 12/09/2019 5:55:27 PM PST by Eddie01
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