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Hillary Clinton cheers impeachment, says Trump ‘waging war’ against democracy
MSN News ^ | December 10, 2019 | by Ronn Blitzer

Posted on 12/10/2019 12:43:34 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: philman_36
We don't have a Representative Republic. We have a Constitutional Republic.

I may have made that same error myself. So hard it to be perfect it but it's worth preserving the correct terms.

Are we a Constitutionally limited representative republic? Or just a Constitutional Republic? I'll assume the latter.

61 posted on 12/10/2019 4:11:25 PM PST by frank ballenger (End vote fraud & harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: rktman

they IMPEACH ...WE HIT THE STREETS


62 posted on 12/10/2019 4:54:26 PM PST by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd...you get no further ,than the crowd")
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“...And her crime spree never ends, pay for play, espionage, making billions in aid money disappear, Benghazi, massive refugee crisis in Libya which she laughed about”

Don’t forget the 20% of our URANIUM that went to Putin.


63 posted on 12/10/2019 5:14:07 PM PST by Captain7seas (UN EXIT!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Fat, drunk and stupid is the only way Hillary went through life.

The Democrats have the “Five Bitches of the Apocalypse” - Hillary, Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Ilhan Omar and the foul-mouthed PLO hag, Tlaib.

If Shakespeare had lived and had written “MacBeth” today, he would have made these women the models for the “Witches” in it.

“Evil” has a face - in fact - five faces. Their names are listed above. KNOW YOUR ENEMIES and fight them!


64 posted on 12/10/2019 6:13:45 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures)
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To: frank ballenger
...it's worth preserving the correct terms.

IMO it's essential to not only preserve but to use the correct terms.

Are we a Constitutionally limited representative republic? Or just a Constitutional Republic?

Your wording is telling.
Rhetorical questions don't get answers.

65 posted on 12/11/2019 6:15:06 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

SHE’S DRUNK AGAIN!!!!!

....and what’s that HORRIBLE smell, it smells like urine, boiled cabbage, and farts.


66 posted on 12/11/2019 6:19:37 PM PST by RooRoobird20 ( "Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves”)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
How come there isn't a criminal indictment of Hilary Clinton for the crimes she has committed if Trump is so powerful?
Here is a list of 11 different Federal crimes committed by Hillary Clinton:
18 U.S. Code Sec 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense info.
18 U.S. Code Sec. 798 - Disclosure of clasified information
18 U.S. Code Sec 2071(b) - Concealment, removal, or multilation generally
18 U.S. Code Sec. 1505 - Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees
18 U.S. Code Sec. 1519 - Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations
18 U.S. Code Sec. 1031 - Fraud against the Unitd States
18 U.S. Code Sec. 1343 - Fraud by wire, radio r television
18 U.S. Code Sec. 371 - Conspiracuy to commit a Federal offense 18 U.S. Code Sec. 1001 - Making false statements
2 U.S. Code Sec. 192 - Contempt of Congress
18 U.S. Code Sec. 1961-1968 - Racketeering

67 posted on 12/11/2019 6:32:44 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen

Soooo, this is what they are impeaching Trump with. Except he didn’t do anything to deserve it.

2 U.S. Code Sec. 192 - Contempt of Congress


68 posted on 12/11/2019 6:43:05 PM PST by JerseyDvl ("If you're going through hell, keep going.")
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To: philman_36

Please don’t be picky with me—it doesn’t work because I am often imprecise or error prone as you can see from my posts. I have no hidden agenda-—just sincerely trying to use the correct terms

I didn’t mean to insult our Constitutional Republic or cast aspersions on it by saying “just”. I meant do the additional words apply or not.

My question was genuine. Someone around said “Constitutionally Limited Republic” and I was asking you about it. Not implying anything.

At 73 my memory of studying for my 1968 political science degree has flaws. I actually took a one semester class in the US Constitution,read the Federalist Papers,Democracy in America, books by and about Thomas Paine,Patrick Henry and many others. Remember every line? No. Like my Bible studies I feel like I know less than when I started because I now “know how much I do not know.”

I now have the Library of America Debate on the Constitution, a complete set of the Times American Presidents biographies and many on the history of the revolutionary period and most of the Oxford History of the United States. I have but have not fully read the 2 vol. Debate on the Constitution and the 2 vol. Am. Revolution Pamphlet Debate—which I am now inspired to consult. Thanks to you.

I meant no disrespect to you or to our system of government.
Forgive me.


69 posted on 12/11/2019 7:16:15 PM PST by frank ballenger (End vote fraud & harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: frank ballenger
Someone around said “Constitutionally Limited Republic” and I was asking you about it.

Yeah, it's easy enough to find..."Constitutionally Limited Republic" site:freerepublic.com

Like here, recently..."Earning My Vote" and Other Misconceptions
In fact, as a citizen in a constitutionally-limited republic, your vote is not a reward for a slick presentation, an attractive face, or the display of some talent like the Miss America pageant.

I would not use that term. The reading of the Constitution does lay out the limitations on the government, but IMO to use such a term is meant only to be descriptive of function...limiting the government.

Another instance from 2002...#4
First para, second sentence.
Third para, first sentence. Such use is descriptive, not defining.

Just Constitutional Republic, as you said, IMO.
Thanks for your clarification.

70 posted on 12/12/2019 2:00:24 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: jfd1776; frank ballenger
...IMO to use such a term is meant only to be descriptive of function...limiting the government.

Would you care to chime in on whether or not I made the correct call regarding your particular usage in your article?

It is causing some confusion.

start at reply 61

71 posted on 12/12/2019 2:10:25 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

In #60 you stated it well and I will try to use the correct term. You are right:

“We don’t have a Representative Republic.
We have a Constitutional Republic.
Ducks in a row...Representation is spelled out within the Constitution.
Congressional oaths are to the Constitution.
(...I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States...)
One must come before the other. “


Also the Leonard Peikoff quote in the 2002 thread on Athenian democracy leading to the death of Socrates was helpful.

So many would prefer a smartphone internet voting system of direct democracy in which a tearful Greta speech followed by an inspiring Oprah one would allow the immediate election of Bernie. System and vote counting software supplied by Soros companies, of course.

Thanks for your patience and information.


72 posted on 12/12/2019 7:54:37 AM PST by frank ballenger (End vote fraud & harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Clinton called the impeachment push necessary for defending democracy.

That's why they're trying to destroy it.

73 posted on 12/12/2019 9:14:43 PM PST by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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To: metmom

You should post that on her Twitter.


74 posted on 12/12/2019 9:19:38 PM PST by Trump_Triumphant
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To: Trump_Triumphant

I don’t have a twitter account.

Anyone who wants is free to use it.


75 posted on 12/13/2019 9:59:07 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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