Posted on 12/11/2019 2:09:47 PM PST by BeauBo
A U.S. Senate committee backed legislation on Wednesday to impose sanctions on Turkey after its offensive in Syria and purchase of a Russian S-400 missile system... The Republican-led Senate Foreign Relations Committee voted by 18-4 to send the Promoting American National Security and Preventing the Resurgence of ISIS Act of 2019 for a vote in the full Senate.
Nows the time for the Senate to come together and take this opportunity to change Turkeys behaviour, said Senator Jim Risch, the panels Republican chairman, a lead sponsor of the bill with Senator Bob Menendez, the panels top Democrat....
This is not some minor dustup with this country. This is a drift by this country, Turkey, to go in an entirely different direction than what they have in the past, Risch said.
Theyve thumbed their nose at us, and theyve thumbed their nose at their other NATO allies, he said...
To become law, the legislation would have to pass the House of Representatives, which passed its own Turkish sanctions bill by an overwhelming 403-16 vote in October and be signed by Trump.
(Excerpt) Read more at uk.reuters.com ...
Ping, for your friend.
Tho Constitution gives the Executive primary control over the conduct of foreign affairs. If Congress over-rides a President’s veto of a bill directing him to take some specific foreign policy action, it sounds like an encroachment on the power granted to the Executive. It would probably wind up in court if current precedent is unsettled.. The check Congress has is through the appropriation process, but, even there, it’s unclear to me how specific Congressional legislation about spending could get before it would excessively restrict a President. An Executive with no discretion would amount to Congress’ directly running the government. I don’t get to draw the line, but in my opinion Congress has abdicated much too much of its proper responsibility to the Executive and the Executive State.
I didn’t read the article, of course, but didn’t President Trump pardon the turkeys a little before Thanksgiving?
The President and the Legislature are basically on the same side of this issue - with overwhelming bipartisan support.
It will give the President powerful support to pressure the Erdogan Government.
If this could pass so overwhelmingly, what else could come next? There will be very high credibility for any future sanctions threatened.
President Trump has already previously put some painful sanctions on Turkish behavior. They could be ramped up to economy crashing levels (which the President has previously threatened to do).
“didnt President Trump pardon the turkeys”?
Not the one named Erdogan...
Too soon, but eyes open.
Trump could probably veto and have it hold.
Don’t see where he has good enough reason to though.
Likely will negotiate something more flexible with Congress.
Turkey’s definitely leaving the West for the East though.
[Tho Constitution gives the Executive primary control over the conduct of foreign affairs. ]
Just how rare are veto overrides, where Congress gets its way over the President’s objections? 7% of the time. In other words, 93% of the time, Presidential vetoes survive override attempts.
https://www.archives.gov/files/legislative/resources/education/veto/background.pdf
Article I of the Constitution enumerates several of Congresss foreign affairs powers, including those to regulate commerce with foreign nations, declare war, raise and support armies, provide and maintain a navy, and make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces. The Constitution also makes two of the presidents foreign affairs powersmaking treaties and appointing diplomatsdependent on Senate approval.
Beyond these, Congress has general powersto lay and collect taxes, to draw money from the Treasury, and to make all laws which shall be necessary and properthat, collectively, allow legislators to influence nearly all manner of foreign policy issues. For example, the 114th Congress (20152017) passed laws on topics ranging from electronic surveillance to North Korea sanctions to border security to wildlife trafficking. In one noteworthy instance, lawmakers overrode President Barack Obamas veto to enact a law allowing victims of international terrorist attacks to sue foreign governments.
Congress also plays an oversight role. The annual appropriations process allows congressional committees to review in detail the budgets and programs of the vast military and diplomatic bureaucracies. Lawmakers must sign off on more than a trillion dollars in federal spending every year, of which more than half is allocated to defense and international affairs. Lawmakers may also stipulate how that money is to be spent. For instance, Congress repeatedly barred the Obama administration from using funds to transfer detainees out of the military prison at Guantanamo Bay.
Congress has broad authority to conduct investigations into particular foreign policy or national security concerns. High-profile inquiries in recent years have centered on the 9/11 attacks, the Central Intelligence Agencys detention and interrogation programs, and the 2012 attack on U.S. diplomatic facilities in Benghazi, Libya.
Furthermore, Congress has the power to create, eliminate, or restructure executive branch agencies, which it has often done after major conflicts or crises. In the wake of World War II, Congress passed the National Security Act of 1947, which established the CIA and National Security Council. Following the 9/11 attacks, Congress created the Department of Homeland Security.
Powers of the President
The presidents authority in foreign affairs, as in all areas, is rooted in Article II of the Constitution. The charter grants the officeholder the powers to make treaties and appoint ambassadors with the advice and consent of the Senate (Treaties require approval of two-thirds of senators present. Appointments require consent of a simple majority.)
Presidents also rely on other clauses to support their foreign policy actions, particularly those that bestow executive power and the role of commander in chief of the army and navy on the office. From this language springs a wide array of associated or implied powers. For instance, from the explicit power to appoint and receive ambassadors flows the implicit authority to recognize foreign governments and conduct diplomacy with other countries generally. From the commander-in-chief clause flow powers to use military force and collect foreign intelligence.
Presidents also draw on statutory authorities. Congress has passed legislation giving the executive additional authority to act on specific foreign policy issues. For instance, the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (1977) authorizes the president to impose economic sanctions on foreign entities.
Presidents also cite case law to support their claims of authority. In particular, two U.S. Supreme Court decisionsUnited States. v. Curtiss-Wright Export Corporation (1936) and Youngstown Sheet & Tube Company v. Sawyer (1952)are touchstones.
In the first, the court held that President Franklin D. Roosevelt acted within his constitutional authority when he brought charges against the Curtiss-Wright Export Corporation for selling arms to Paraguay and Bolivia in violation of federal law. Executive branch attorneys often cite Justice George Sutherlands expansive interpretation of the presidents foreign affairs powers in that case. The president is the sole organ of the federal government in the field of international relations, he wrote on behalf of the court. He, not Congress, has the better opportunity of knowing conditions which prevail in foreign countries and especially is this true in time of war, he wrote.
In the second case, the court held that President Harry Truman ran afoul of the Constitution when he ordered the seizure of U.S. steel mills during the Korean War. Youngstown is often described by legal scholars as a bookend to Curtiss-Wright since the latter recognizes broad executive authority, whereas the former describes limits on it. Youngstown is cited regularly for Justice Robert Jacksons three-tiered framework for evaluating presidential power:]
Didn’t Trump pardon Turkey just before Thanksgiving?
why too soon? When the last person accepts Christ were gone.
Thank you my friend.
There will be wars and rumours of war.
It will not become close to time for the final battles until after earlier wars in which Israel’s nuclear arsenal is exhausted.
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