[AndyJackson]

Giuliani says he believes in 'deep state'

This is like saying you believe in Santa Claus. I know the deep state is real because I live in DC and watch it operate 24/7. It's not interested in you, or America, or even saving the planet. It is interested in one thing - themselves and futherence of their own power and wealth.

[gogulls]

damn right. There’s a reason why 6 of the richest U.S. counties surround the beltway

[Bob Ireland]

“It isn’t that they disagree with his policies, and even that they try to undermine his policies a bit. That’s been going on for years,” he continued. “They want to get him out of office..."

***It is interested in one thing - themselves and furtherance of their own power and wealth***

Yep; follow the money. Tremendous wealth passes through State, much of it not well accounted for. Foreigners receiving American largess are trained in how to kick it back in untraceable ways... to politicians and bureaucrats.

There appears to be a conflict between POTUS and the Turtle about a long or short trial on impeachment in the Senate. One reason is that POTUS wants a long trial to help expose all the corruption between Washington and Ukraine. The Turtle knows it will involve too many in the Senate - including some Repubs... must avoid like the black death.