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THE INFINITY WAR. We say we’re a peaceful nation. Why do our leaders always keep us at war?
Washington Post ^ | Dec 13 2019 | Samuel Moyn and Stephen Wertheim

Posted on 12/16/2019 3:36:54 PM PST by rintintin

Now we know, thanks to The Afghanistan Papers published in The Washington Post this past week, that U.S. policymakers doubted almost from the start that the two-decade-long Afghanistan war could ever succeed. Officials didn’t know who the enemy was and had little sense of what an achievable “victory” might look like. “We didn’t have the foggiest notion of what we were undertaking,” said Douglas Lute, the Army three-star general who oversaw the conflict from the White House during the administrations of George W. Bush and Barack Obama.

And yet the war ground on, as if on autopilot. Obama inherited a conflict of which Bush had grown weary, and victory drew no closer after Obama’s troop “surge” than when Bush pursued a small-footprint conflict. But while the Pentagon Papers, published in 1971 during the Vietnam War, led a generation to appreciate the perils of warmaking, a new generation may squander this opportunity to set things right. There is a reason the quagmire in Afghanistan, despite costing thousands of lives and $2 trillion, has failed to shock Americans into action: The United States for decades has made peace look unimaginable or unobtainable. We have normalized war.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; US: District of Columbia
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1 posted on 12/16/2019 3:36:54 PM PST by rintintin
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To: rintintin

Money. More conflict provides more political advertisement revenues for the media.


2 posted on 12/16/2019 3:39:11 PM PST by FreedBird
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To: rintintin

Dear fedgov,

you’re fired


3 posted on 12/16/2019 3:40:51 PM PST by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: rintintin

President Eisenhower warned us of the Military industrial complex. It has grown into large charges for weapons, big banks, politicians amassing great wealth. Deep state is the current military industrial complex.


4 posted on 12/16/2019 3:44:20 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: rintintin
To be fair, we didn't fire the first shot on 9/11. We couldn't just sit back and not respond.

But the problem of no longer being willing to go to 'total war' goes back to just after WWII. Nation building is not our job, and we are not good at it outside of western culture.

The non-western cultures only understand brutal force and only respect strength.

5 posted on 12/16/2019 3:44:30 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: FreedBird

Not to mention all the money that disappears and likely ends up in the coffers of corrupt politicians.


6 posted on 12/16/2019 3:45:15 PM PST by rfreedom4u (The root word of vigilante is vigilant!)
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To: rintintin

I guess I should have been a policy maker. I doubted it could succeed from day one and knew it was a bad idea. Little Georgy lead us down a bad path.


7 posted on 12/16/2019 3:45:43 PM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: rintintin

Profiteering.

Many get rich off of war costs.


8 posted on 12/16/2019 3:51:11 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: All
The Afghanistan Papers

It was all a lie

9 posted on 12/16/2019 3:56:17 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: rintintin

We have always been at war with East Asia.


10 posted on 12/16/2019 4:02:38 PM PST by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: rintintin

Eisenhower tried to warn us........


11 posted on 12/16/2019 4:03:49 PM PST by Viking2002 (..........and Epstein didn't kill himself. Yeah, I went there.)
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To: rintintin

Obama said that Afghanistan was the good war, that we needed to be focused there and had no business in Iraq (even though Saddam had repeatedly broken the peace agreement of the first Gulf War).


12 posted on 12/16/2019 4:04:53 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: rintintin

We don’t have leaders...we have representatives ...


13 posted on 12/16/2019 4:07:05 PM PST by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: rintintin

Because war consumes our alpha males while enriching the elite.


14 posted on 12/16/2019 4:07:13 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: rintintin

Washington Post used to run a bogus “Bush’s fault war dead” list. It included someone who died crossing a highway in the midwest.

When Obama became president they didn’t run a daily ‘body count’ list.

Is the Washington Post anti-war again?


15 posted on 12/16/2019 4:07:14 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: rintintin

Chris Matthews asks : Why are so many Democrats war hawks?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/chris-matthews-asks-gabbard-why-are-so-many-democrats-war-hawks


16 posted on 12/16/2019 4:08:15 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: rintintin

In no small part it’s because of propaganda organs like WaPo.


17 posted on 12/16/2019 4:09:40 PM PST by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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To: rintintin

No one has ever tamed Afghanistan and no one ever will.
We should never have set one foot in the country.
Bounce the rubble for 30 days of B-52 raids and call it a day was all that was called for.


18 posted on 12/16/2019 4:10:00 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: bankwalker
Somebody better tell the Martians👽But I agree with you 110%, I cringe when I hear people refer to them as, "Leaders".
19 posted on 12/16/2019 4:17:22 PM PST by crosdaddy (Arl)
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To: Magnum44

“To be fair, we didn’t fire the first shot on 9/11. We couldn’t just sit back and not respond.”

But Afghanistan had not attacked us. Saudis did. But the answer to the question is that war has become profitable.


20 posted on 12/16/2019 4:18:27 PM PST by dvan (Send Them Home!Napolatono)
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