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To: Magnatron

Does everyone notice how the media, including Fox News, is always talking about how they improperly surveilled Carter Page?

And they never explain the two-hop rule and how it works and how Carter Page was merely a conduit to spy on Donald Trump and his entire campaign and transition team and presidency.


66 posted on 12/17/2019 3:15:29 PM PST by Meet the New Boss
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Exactly! The FISA warrant allows the “two-hop” rule. That means the spying just starts with Page. It includes the first circle of people who Page had direct contact with. And includes the second circle of people who had contact with the first circle. Carter Page had direct contact with President Trump adviser Steve Bannon, so the second hop would include President Trump. Also look at how many the second hop can rope in. Assume Carter had 20 contacts and those 20 contacts had 20 contacts. The first hop ropes in 20 people, but the second hop ropes in 20X20 or 400 people.


80 posted on 12/17/2019 3:47:16 PM PST by Bruce Kurtz
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Yes, and Carter Page was specifically assigned, as he had been previously as a loyal American when on business in Russia and elsewhere paid to observe Russian activities he was able to pick up on and pass along to his contractor.. the C)!(A.

Page was “sacrificed” by the direct action of Klinesmith in order to create the “American of Interest” who is constantly in touch with foreigners (ie. Russians).

As you have said— he was a “conduit” that was “dirtied” up to sell the FISA court on the warrant and not for just 1 time. And the “Hop and Skip” abuse is CURRENTLY in use in the over 1000 approved FISA warrants last year ALONE!
This is a tool, not to protect the US (though it may be in some cases)— it is a tool to PROTECT the C)!(A above all others surveilling INSIDE THE USA, and using the FBI’s “counterintelligence” function to do this for DEVIOUS reasons. In this case— the furtherance of the obamaumao “transformation” of the USA into a surveillance STASI state for him and his fellow totalitarian muslim marxists. TO PROTECT THEM.

It put the country in danger, and is still doing so. First witness.... Admiral Rogers.

Who knows about HAMR software and it’s use in domestic surveillance. Which, in this case the democrat Leftists LOVE because it is their surveillance. How they would howl if it was used against them! This is the same idea of a democrat getting us into a ‘good’ war like the ISIS debacle was intended. At root of it all is a ruling mil-industrial-and surveillance state to justify their continuing siphoning of US taxpayer’s hard earned money— for their own “ruling class”. And the “julius caesar” of the common man— obamaumao perhaps still has copies of all the data. He should be prosecuted, for if he is not, much worse may happen to him and his pals.


87 posted on 12/17/2019 4:06:06 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Meet the New Boss
I was waiting for someone to state the Two Hop Rule.

This was not about survailing Carter Page.

103 posted on 12/17/2019 5:41:15 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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