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Iran Loses Its Indispensable Man (Soleimani)
theatlantic.com ^ | 2 January 2020

Posted on 01/02/2020 8:42:45 PM PST by Helicondelta

Today the United States killed Major General Qassem Soleimani, the commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps’s Quds Force. The United States is now in a hot war with Iran after having waged war via proxies for the past several decades.

This doesn’t mean war, it will not lead to war, and it doesn’t risk war. None of that. It is war.

I do not know of a single Iranian who was more indispensable to his government’s ambitions in the Middle East. From 2015 to 2017, when we were in the heat of the fighting against the Islamic State in both Syria and Iraq, I would watch Soleimani shuttle back and forth between Syria and Iraq. When the war to prop up Bashar al-Assad was going poorly, Soleimani would leave Iraq for Syria. And when Iranian-backed militias in Iraq began to struggle against the Islamic State, Soleimani would leave Syria for Iraq.

Qassem Soleimani was the adult supervision. He was spread thin over the past decade, but he was nonetheless a serious if nefarious adversary of the United States and its partners in the region. And Iran and its partners will now feel his loss greatly.

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To: 7thson

That’s a nice thought (television address) but picture it...the MSM talking over PT, ‘fact checking,’ etc.


21 posted on 01/02/2020 9:11:36 PM PST by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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To: Helicondelta

Boastful general gone without televised warning ?

Red line announced after the fact ? (Want more a$$holes. You’ll get more)

Iranian Protestors must be giddy with hope


22 posted on 01/02/2020 9:13:03 PM PST by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. IOr keep people from / PC ing in ver and alway)
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To: Helicondelta
"The Left Loses Its Indispensable Man (Soleimani"

Fixed it.

23 posted on 01/02/2020 9:15:45 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Helicondelta

Excellent!


24 posted on 01/02/2020 9:17:57 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Helicondelta

apparently this is what happens when the Iranian Ayatollah tweets to President Trump: “You can’t do anything”

instead of engaging in a twitter war, President Trump responds with a REAL war move, and takes the Ayatollah’s main player off the board

hey, Ayatollah, you got anymore clever tweets about President Trump that you want the world to see?


25 posted on 01/02/2020 9:29:20 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Helicondelta

Wow, when I read the title, I thought something happened to OBeelzebub.


26 posted on 01/02/2020 9:31:07 PM PST by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: Helicondelta

27 posted on 01/02/2020 9:32:03 PM PST by PGR88
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To: gogeo

Televise it and also go on the internet with it. Explain what it means to attack an embassy. Explain how Iran has been a thorn in our side for over 40 years - the hostage situation, bombing in Lebanon, funding terrorism. Lay it out and say the democrats will take Iran’s side and let American soldiers die.


28 posted on 01/02/2020 9:35:26 PM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Helicondelta

So, Trump can’t do anything, right, raghead?


29 posted on 01/02/2020 9:36:42 PM PST by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Helicondelta

Oh now I see what Obama was trying to do - crush him with pallets of cash.


30 posted on 01/02/2020 9:38:14 PM PST by GnuThere
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To: ruiner

Like 20 but that would have required a President with balls.


31 posted on 01/02/2020 10:40:54 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: gaijin
I loathe Iran, but if this turns into a REAL war, I’m not sure if it’s going to help Trump win re-election.

I don't think it will turn into a real war. And if it does, it will be short lived. Trump is not Bush. It's not like we're going to invade Iran on foot. Trump won't do tit for tat for very long. He hits back much harder than those that hit him.

And if it did come to a real war, which democrat candidate would you rather see leading our armed forces?

Biden, who showed weakness today and said we shouldn't have done anything provcative in response to the embassy attacks?

Warren,who has talked tough on Iran in the past? But also said "Reagan military spending meant more bombs & fewer textbooks. (Apr 2017)", "Reduce size of standing army to reduce deficit. (Oct 2012)"

Sanders?

Or maybe the gay mayor of South Bend who wants to restore the Iran deal?

32 posted on 01/02/2020 11:56:55 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: ruiner

The Israelis’ would have in 2015 if Obama had not warned the Iranians in advance.


33 posted on 01/03/2020 3:49:23 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: gaijin

It was already a real war.

The US responded to an attack on its embassy in Iraq by Iranians by taking out their George S. Patton 13 hours later.

That’s how long wars become short ones. Iran’s economy cannot sustain an actual, real national military effort. They’ve now been pushed to doing either exactly that, or surrender.

Iran actually has Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Israel allied against them, not including the US. They are the problem in the Sandbox.

Nothing says ‘don’t actually make us lift a finger and do something about Iran’ like killing their Patton 13 hours after an embassy attack.

These are the things that shorten wars we are already in. The point to war is getting the other country to capitulate. This is how that is accomplished.


34 posted on 01/03/2020 3:58:38 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Bon mots

They made a movie “13 Hours” about the benghazi attack. Now they’ll need to make a sequel “Reverse 13 Hours”.


35 posted on 01/03/2020 4:09:52 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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To: ctdonath2

The sucking sound didn’t start until Obama’s pullout in 2011.


36 posted on 01/03/2020 4:30:24 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Sirius Lee

This event demonstrates why President Trump is so popular with common-folks who love America. Instead of capitulating, posturing, behind-the-scenes negotiating, or simply doing nothing, he takes out the biggest thorn in our side almost immediately after our embassy was attacked.
Don’t think for one second that the mullahs aren’t shocked at the swiftness and violent answer to the embassy attack. This was long overdue.


37 posted on 01/03/2020 4:36:35 AM PST by sgt_lau (Being tolerant to the most intolerant people on the planet is a losing proposition. Reject islam.)
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To: dp0622

Worth repeating, “Gives us a reason to knock out the nuke sites”

Israel is looking for any opportunity to do so, also.


38 posted on 01/03/2020 6:58:11 AM PST by 2001convSVT (Medicare for All = Medical Care for None!)
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To: Helicondelta
This doesn’t mean war, it will not lead to war, and it doesn’t risk war. None of that. It is war.

Indeed.

39 posted on 01/03/2020 7:01:25 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Helicondelta
The United States is now in a hot war with Iran after having waged war via proxies for the past several decades.

Utter nonsense. The Iranian regime wants what every other such regime in history wanted: to survive. They know they can't possibly take us on in a head-to-head fight, especially since we've all but crippled their economy. It'll be the usual proxy/terrorist garbage. They have no other cards to play.

40 posted on 01/03/2020 7:05:43 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Plans are worthless, but planning is everything. - Dwight Eisenhower, 1957)
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