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Joe Lieberman at the Water’s Edge
nysun ^ | 1/5/2020 | editorial

Posted on 01/06/2020 9:39:18 AM PST by bitt

Congratulations are in order for the former senator from Connecticut, Joseph Lieberman. He will be in Monday’s Wall Street Journal with the first really sensible column from a Democrat in this entire election cycle. It’s an op-ed piece that asks why the Democratic Party’s candidates can’t “simply admit Qasem Soleimani’s death makes Americans safer?”

“President Trump’s order to take out Qasem Soleimani was,” Mr. Lieberman writes, “morally, constitutionally and strategically correct.” He reckons the President’s decision “deserves more bipartisan support than the begrudging or negative reactions it has received thus far” from his fellow Democrats. Well put.

Mr. Lieberman calls it “understandable that the political class should have questions about it.” What isn’t understandable, he writes, is “that all the questions are being raised by Democrats and all the praise is coming from Republicans.” He warns that “the partisanship that has infected and disabled so much of U.S. domestic policy” has spread.

By now, he suggests, it “also determines our elected leaders’ responses to major foreign-policy events and national-security issues, even the killing of a man responsible for murdering hundreds of Americans and planning to kill thousands more.” It’s an illuminating moment, and we share his concerns down to the ground.

Mr. Lieberman writes of Senator Arthur Vandenberg, the Michigan Republican and one-time isolationist who, after Pearl Harbor, began to alter his views and eventually, in 1945, made what we’ve called one of the most famous U-turns in history. He helped create the bipartisan foreign policy that undergirt our long road to victory in the Cold War.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Connecticut; US: Michigan; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arthurvandenberg; connecticut; grandrapids; iran; iraq; joelieberman; josephlieberman; michigan; putinsbuttboys; qasemsoleimani; qudsforce; waronterror; whataretheirfrnicks
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1 posted on 01/06/2020 9:39:18 AM PST by bitt
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2 posted on 01/06/2020 9:39:33 AM PST by bitt (A FRIVOLOUS impeachment vote is a SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY)
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To: bitt

I wonder if Democrats would feel the same about Hitler and gush over him like he was a martyr. Remember that this killer was planning new attack and yes he was the “enemy.”


3 posted on 01/06/2020 9:42:35 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: bitt

One of those rare Democrats who is gone today. Foreign policy has become as partisan as our domestic conflicts.

Those no longer stop at the “waters edge”.


4 posted on 01/06/2020 9:42:47 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: bitt

It was an excellent read and his interview on Fox Business this morning was also welcomed.


5 posted on 01/06/2020 9:43:40 AM PST by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: bitt

Though it doesn’t read that way, I wonder if Lieberman is coming at this as a Jew.


6 posted on 01/06/2020 9:46:10 AM PST by stylin19a ((2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever))
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To: bitt

If the Dems were smart (vs just plain sneaky) they would run Joe Lieberman for president. He is very normal acting, or at least he was some 10 years ago. But, they are not listening to that sort of logic, so here we are.
Too many Chiefs and not enough Indians.


7 posted on 01/06/2020 9:46:30 AM PST by lee martell
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To: stylin19a

Perhaps, but that hasn’t stopped the likes of Schumer for popping off against the action. Party uber alles.


8 posted on 01/06/2020 9:49:37 AM PST by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: bitt

The United States that Vandenberg lived in is long gone. The same generation dubbed “the greatest generation” did fight WWII, but they came home and started the slide down to where we are today.


9 posted on 01/06/2020 9:51:39 AM PST by Avalon Memories (Politics is all about quid pro quos. Donate to me! Vote for me! I'll give you "free" stuff)
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To: bitt

Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.(the Jews) - Golda Meir

why the Democratic Party’s candidates can’t “simply admit Qasem Soleimani’s death makes Americans safer?”

Simple, they hate Trump (or more importantly, those who voted for him and what they represent) more than they love this nation... PERIOD.


10 posted on 01/06/2020 9:54:35 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: NohSpinZone

https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6120037401001/#sp=show-clips

thanks - Joe on Maria this morning


11 posted on 01/06/2020 9:59:38 AM PST by bitt (A FRIVOLOUS impeachment vote is a SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY)
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To: goldstategop
"One of those rare Democrats who is gone today. Foreign policy has become as partisan as our domestic conflicts."

I believe he switched to Independent in his later years.

12 posted on 01/06/2020 10:01:58 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: HamiltonJay

It’s even more simple than that. What we term Leftists (Marxists and all derivatives of Marxism) hate the United States and want to overthrow the country. They just haven’t quite figured out how to do it without bloodshed. Yet.


13 posted on 01/06/2020 10:09:06 AM PST by Avalon Memories (Politics is all about quid pro quos. Donate to me! Vote for me! I'll give you "free" stuff)
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To: dhs12345

Yes, they would.


14 posted on 01/06/2020 10:10:19 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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“President Trump’s order to take out Qasem Soleimani was,” Mr. Lieberman writes, “morally, constitutionally and strategically correct.” He reckons the President’s decision “deserves more bipartisan support than the begrudging or negative reactions it has received thus far” from his fellow Democrats... Mr. Lieberman writes of Senator Arthur Vandenberg, the Michigan Republican and one-time isolationist who, after Pearl Harbor, began to alter his views and eventually, in 1945, made what we’ve called one of the most famous U-turns in history. He helped create the bipartisan foreign policy that undergirt our long road to victory in the Cold War.
There's a fairly recent statue of Vanderberg over by the McCay Tower in downtown GR.

15 posted on 01/06/2020 10:14:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: HamiltonJay

TDS blocks rational thought.


16 posted on 01/06/2020 10:44:07 AM PST by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: Avalon Memories

Not quite. The Greatests who fought and won WWII came home to live their lives and raise their families in the country they fought to protect. But while they were fighting, the Roosevelt era expansion of of the federal government was quickly turning it into something very different that we now call the administrative or deep state. Truman and Eisenhower did little to oppose this trend, and added to it (cold war, interstate highways, space program, etc).

Ike warned us about the military-industrial complex, he just didn’t talk about how the federal government promoted and paid for all of it.


17 posted on 01/06/2020 11:01:44 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

They would if it meant taking a jab at Trump.


18 posted on 01/06/2020 11:23:57 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: bigbob

“The Greatest” gave us atrocities like Roe v. Wade, the Vietnam War, the sexual revolution, unionized federal workers, etc. They raised the huge number of Leftist Baby Boomers who, in turn, kept the slide going via their march through our institutions. Sorry, but the generation that fought WWII threw it all away in later years and through their kids.


19 posted on 01/06/2020 11:25:00 AM PST by Avalon Memories (Politics is all about quid pro quos. Donate to me! Vote for me! I'll give you "free" stuff)
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To: goldstategop

Lieberman is a moderate, too right wing for the Democrats, too left wing for the Republicans.

There is a reason why McCain did not pick him in 2008 for VP.


20 posted on 01/06/2020 11:35:36 AM PST by GuavaCheesePuff (I want to thank the Good Lord for making me a Yankee-Old Yankee Stadium (1923-2008))
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