Food for Thought: Some Rational Arguments for God’s Existence

Townhall.com ^ | January 12, 2020 | Jack Kerwick

[Hebrews 11:6]

There are numerous examples where the Bible makes testable claims which science was only able to verify 3,500 years later (dark matter and the universe's expansion are among them). The one you highlight is probably the most prominent.

For the skeptics, proofs such as Hawking/Penrose's theorems have moved the vast majority of doubting cosmologists into the deism camp, while many have become theists and even Christians. God encourages men to verify His claims: "Do not treat prophecies with contempt but test them all; hold on to what is good..." 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21

[Hebrews 11:6]

Until the 1920s cosmologists assumed that Genesis 1:1 is wrong, that the universe has always existed (because evolutionists need quadrillions of years for life to arise). Lemaître and Hubble first provided observational proof of the universe's beginning, and later Hawking and Penrose delivered the theoretical proof.

Doubleday's and Cartright's contributions to the Big Inning remain controversial.

[trebb]

” God encourages men to verify His claims: “Do not treat prophecies with contempt but test them all; hold on to what is good...” 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 “

Yep - wish more would do their own ‘research” instead of just believing every word out of the guy at the front of the church...some would rather question God than the person they go to to learn of God.

[David]

In 1970 atheists Steven Hawking and Roger Penrose published their now-famous space-time theorem, which demonstrated that any universe . . . . must have had a beginning, implying a transcendant causal agent, which comports perfectly with the God of the Bible.

Better than "comports perfectly"--what is the alternative possible explanation?

Who started the expansion if not God? Where is the Universe located or where was it located when the expansion started? Exactly how does even the scientifically well informed modern man conceptualize the Universe if he excludes God?

[Hebrews 11:6]

wish more would do their own ‘research”

How Berean of you!

[caww]

I don’t think God argues about his existence....’I am that I am”.......

[9YearLurker]

Who suggested he did?

[Hebrews 11:6]

Exactly how does even the scientifically well informed modern man conceptualize the Universe if he excludes God?

1. Foolishly: "The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”" Psalm 14:1; 10:4, 53:1, 74:22; Romans 1:21-23

2. Wickedly: "...people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness..." Romans 1:18, 25

3. Depravedly: "...they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind..." Romans 1:28

4. Fancifully: (pre-1930) Assumes a Steady-State Universe that somehow has always existed (disproven).
(post-1970) Posits a Multiverse that is definitionally unscientific because untestable (so, they hope desperately, unassailable).

[trebb]

Yep.
The best Pastors I’ve ever had always told us to not just believe what they ere telling us - they encouraged us to verify it for ourselves by studying the Bible - and not to isolate passages but to keep them in the context.
One example of why is the folks that tell us the Bible tells us our body is our temple - so we need to exercise and eat right - totally missing the point that the passage refers to sexual impurities.

[Texas Songwriter]

I quote - “Cogito ergo Deus est. -I think, therefore God is.

[tired&retired]

God thinks, therefore I am.

[tired&retired]

God is, whether you think or not.

I recently heard a Rabbi for a Reformed Jewish Synagogue speak at the University. In her warped mind, God needed man to exist.

[tired&retired]

“the Bible tells us our body is our temple “

Our body is a function of the purity of the soul that occupies it. A wound in the soul creates a wound in the body. A wound in the body does not necessarily create a wound in our soul.

The soul is perpetual and is what really matters.

[Texas Songwriter]

more than anything I beliielve and resurrectionlieve in JESUS. That is the God of the Bible...justification by grace through faith in the death,burial, and resurrection Jesus.. I think you missed my point. I won't go too deeply into my comment. It would be more than this thread needs. That is, if naturalism is true then there cannot be accounted fo CONSCOUSNESS.r. Only a transcendent being with the order of mind and all power can imbue us with an immaterial quality such as mind and consciousness can do this. In his resurrection Jesus proved He and the father were one.

You are correct...We I exist whether or not God is.

[DouglasKC]

We literally have millions of nano machines inside of our bodies that are programmed to do hundreds of thousands of functions. Each one of them are specialized machines.

It is insane to think that these machines were created by chance. It could not have happened and any rational human being would recognize this.