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‘You’re a bunch of dopes and babies’: Inside Trump’s stunning tirade against generals
Washington Compost ^ | Jan 17, 2020 | Carol Leonnig, Philip Rucker

Posted on 01/17/2020 10:21:09 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

There is no more sacred room for military officers than 2E924 of the Pentagon, a windowless and secure vault where the Joint Chiefs of Staff meet regularly to wrestle with classified matters. Its more common name is “the Tank.” The Tank resembles a small corporate boardroom, with a gleaming golden oak table, leather swivel armchairs and other mid-century stylings. Inside its walls, flag officers observe a reverence and decorum for the wrenching decisions that have been made there.

Hanging prominently on one of the walls is The Peacemakers, a painting that depicts an 1865 Civil War strategy session with President Abraham Lincoln and his three service chiefs — Lieutenant General Ulysses S. Grant, Major General William Tecumseh Sherman, and Rear Admiral David Dixon Porter. One hundred fifty-​­two years after Lincoln hatched plans to preserve the Union, President Trump’s advisers staged an intervention inside the Tank to try to preserve the world order....

Trump organized his unorthodox worldview under the simplistic banner of “America First,” but Mattis, Tillerson, and Cohn feared his proposals were rash, barely considered, and a danger to America’s superpower standing. They also felt that many of Trump’s impulsive ideas stemmed from his lack of familiarity with U.S. history and, even, where countries were located. To have a useful discussion with him, the trio agreed, they had to create a basic knowledge, a shared language....

“You’re all losers,” Trump said. “You don’t know how to win anymore.”

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


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I think Trump should fire 50% of all flag officers and not replace them. There are too many non combat empire builders (e.g. MDA).
1 posted on 01/17/2020 10:21:09 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage?
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“You’re all losers,” Trump said. “You don’t know how to win anymore.”

Our top brass has been that way since we stopped killing the North Koreans and their ChiCom buddies.


2 posted on 01/17/2020 10:23:45 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Democrats sue Iran over the right to use "Death to America" as their 2020 campaign slogan!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The military has been besieged by Political Correctness for decades to the point now where every officer and non-com is examined on their knowledge not of military tactics and history by the latest whims of all the multiplying minority interest groups.


3 posted on 01/17/2020 10:25:38 AM PST by euram
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Well, Trump’s right. Obummer replaced most of the good people with his lackeys, so there’s that...


4 posted on 01/17/2020 10:25:44 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

From the sound of it, they were talking down to him. And he didn’t take it well.

They weren’t answering his core concerns. How do we win in Afghanistan, what would victory look like, and how do we get there. And if there is no victory that can be articulated, why are we there?


5 posted on 01/17/2020 10:25:57 AM PST by marron
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Every flag officer we have saluted the transgenderizing of the military by the Kenyanesian Usurper.
Those are HIS generals.

They are a bunch of dopes and babies.


6 posted on 01/17/2020 10:26:25 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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“rash, barely considered, and a danger to America’s superpower standing.”

Or, alternatively, “bold, insightful, and a means of restoring America’s lost superpower standing.” The difference seems to be only one of perspective. Really, all they’ve said is that they disagreed with him.


7 posted on 01/17/2020 10:26:34 AM PST by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Maybe Trump’s onto something.


8 posted on 01/17/2020 10:26:47 AM PST by ProudDeplorable (Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty. ~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Trump has travelled the world on business. To suggest he doesn’t know where countries are on the map is just more lying clichés from the dumb, dopey and babyish Washington Post.


9 posted on 01/17/2020 10:27:08 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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Another good question was, why are we allied with Al Qaeda in Syria? Why are we allied with the people who wiped out most of the indigenous Christian population of the Middle East and did it with our dime.

Keep in mind that, by now, he knew who trained, funded, and armed ISIS.


10 posted on 01/17/2020 10:27:25 AM PST by marron
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To: Grampa Dave

Patton was right. MacArthur was right. Joe McCarthy was right.

Find the enemy and destroy him. Otherwise, what’s the point? President Trump gets this.


11 posted on 01/17/2020 10:27:54 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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If nothing else, I’m hoping Trump outgrew his infantile infatuation with U.S. military leadership very soon after his inauguration.


12 posted on 01/17/2020 10:28:15 AM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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I think I’d turn to the five services (Space Force now included), and just say you each get one four-star general, and a limited number of three-star generals (say no more than eight per service).


13 posted on 01/17/2020 10:28:55 AM PST by pepsionice
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He’s saying that our troops are not the mercenaries of the Koreans and Europeans and that they have to pay for our military presence that they agreed upon and reneged upon. What is so bad about that? Otherwise, we end up with Draft Dodger GW Bush making grand pronouncements about bringing democracy to wild places like Afghanistan using the blood of American troops and the money of American taxpayers.


14 posted on 01/17/2020 10:28:57 AM PST by laconic
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I remember reading that, toward the end of Obama’s tenure, something like a hundred intel analysts resigned because their reporting on Syria was being doctored to fit what Obama’s White House wanted to hear.


15 posted on 01/17/2020 10:28:57 AM PST by marron
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To: rightwingcrazy

Exactly. We could abandon the Middle-East entirely and still be a superpower. All that trying to police that region does is get people killed, consume tons of resources better used elsewhere, and engender hatred in most people of that region. I mean we’ve been in Afghanistan longer than Vietnam and have just as little to show for it.


16 posted on 01/17/2020 10:30:15 AM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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Trump wasn't Swamp enough, and was getting in the way of the globalists well laid plans. These scumbags really thought THEY owned our foreign policy. They were encouraged in that thinking for decades by at least 4 presidents.

Fraudulent patriot Mattis (who wanted us pay for trannie-soldiers sexual mutilations) immediately took a job with a huge lobbying firm - proving what a POS he is and always was.

17 posted on 01/17/2020 10:31:09 AM PST by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
One hundred fifty-two years after Lincoln hatched plans to preserve the Union, President Trump’s advisers staged an intervention inside the Tank to try to preserve the world order... Mattis, Tillerson, and Cohn feared his proposals were rash, barely considered, and a danger to America’s superpower standing. They also felt that many of Trump’s impulsive ideas stemmed from his lack of familiarity with U.S. history and, even, where countries were located.
IOW, according to the Washington ComPost, they were insubordinate horse's asses who should have been given the choice of retiring or being fired.

Partisan Media Shills update.


18 posted on 01/17/2020 10:31:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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More garbage from the compost. The writers of this hit piece should suddenly vanish never to be seen again. They are as much or more the enemies of America as any Iranian towel head. The term traitor applies to people like this. The fact that they go on with their day to day lives simply shows how law abiding those of us who voted for Trump are.


19 posted on 01/17/2020 10:32:11 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: marron

I have no idea what was said between generals and POTUS, but I am pretty sure it didnt go down as the Washington Post states.

That said,sometime situations are such that you cant win militarily but you CAN lose. I suppose thats what some generals try to convey. Not sure its an applicable argument in the cases discussed.


20 posted on 01/17/2020 10:32:43 AM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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