Vladimir Putin Seeks Power, Confronts Protests

Townhall.com ^ | January 22, 2020 | Austin Bay

[Kaslin]

This is scary for the Russian citizens

[dp0622]

There were some posts on here last year saying “God Please Bless Putin” :)

I am Glad that he hit ISIS until we got a real president to take care of it.

I’m glad that he knows that Russia needs Christianity in it to survive, though I don’t think at all that he believes.

And I think worse could be in charge over there.

Perhaps he is more of a nationalist than a communist now, but not the way we use the word.

I say respect him to an extant, work with him when you can, but Never trust him and Always Know what what he is.

A man whose enemies don’t stay alive too long too often

[libh8er]

Basically he is president for life.

[rrrod]

Do as you are told peasants!

[NorseViking]

The planned reform is nothing like it is described so far. Technically it makes the government more liberal and democratic but who knows what would be the practical application.
This Putin bashing is somehow tiresome. I agree that he is probably a couple terms too long in power but you won’t even find that bad press on Stalin.
Do people really believe he is worse than Stalin? If true I want facts and not spins.

[NorseViking]

“” “” A man whose enemies don’t stay alive too long too often””” “
And you think so because George Soros and a British government says so.

[nuconvert]

“This Putin bashing is somehow tiresome”

I hope it gets more tiresome for you. PLz feel free to leave.

Putin is a murdering thug

[Zhang Fei]

[Perhaps he is more of a nationalist than a communist now, but not the way we use the word.]

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Communists are nationalist-imperialists like everyone else. Communism is just the justification for the party retaining the absolute powers of kingship. Think of how the Warsaw Pact countries were Soviet provinces in all but name, with leaders that the Russians disapproved of routinely removed, provided they had a substantial military presence in-country. Think of how China invaded Mongolia and Tibet. Think of how Vietnam invaded Cambodia and almost incorporated it as a province.

[Hugh the Scot]

“PLz feel free to leave.”

Well, aren’t you an arrogant SOB?

Last time I checked, you’re not in charge here...

[dp0622]

I like you too much to argue over ONE issue out of thousands.

putin doesn’t matter NEARLY enough to me to go down that road :)

have a good one FRiend

[nuconvert]

“Well, aren’t you an arrogant SOB?:

Same to you Bud. How is telling someone that they’re free to leave “being in charge”?

Putin should rot in H&ll

[Zhang Fei]

The current problem with Russia, for its neighbors and US interests, is the same as the problem it presented during era of the Tsars and the Communists - its relentless appetite for territorial expansion ever since Dmitry Donskoy threw off the Mongol yoke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Donskoy

It’s the same problem that China presents to the world. Every single time China has been strong, it has attempted to add to its possessions. This impulse for personal aggrandizement via territorial conquest is unique to neither country - the Assyrians, Egyptians, Romans, Greeks, Aztecs, Mayans, British, French, et al all had their moments. The difference with the Chinese and the Russians is that their empires are still standing, and they have a long track record of successfully acquiring and incorporating conquests into their realm. And more importantly - they are still around to throw their weight around.

[McGruff]

Putin, Putin, Putin!

Be careful what you wish for.

[NorseViking]

That’s your beef with him?

[dp0622]

Agreed.

But there are many big putin fans here so I’m just gonna avoid the topic rather than argue.

[NorseViking]

Thank you very much for your devotion to constructive discussion.

[NorseViking]

Russia has a lot of features disproving the idea that it is an Empire. Her previous expansion was dictated by the security considerations which aren’t actual in the era of WMD. Last time Russia expanded in 1945 - a year nuclear weapons were developed which proves my point.
As for China it is more complicated but generally speaking it is pretty much contained to its area.

[bert]

There has been some speculation that the actual Russians, the people, long for a Czar. Putin can and may presently fulfill that desire.

My personal belief is that Putin considers his job to be saving Mother Russia from death. As leader of a country with population and economy similar to Australia and Mexico, Putin runs a constant bluff. When Russia is closely examined, there is not as much there as Putin would like us to believe

[NorseViking]

I don’t think there is a popular desire for a Czar. More like the opposite is true.
Putin is not really that popular anymore and only holds the majority by populism at this point.
He and his team actually has a lot to be proud about.
Russian economy is certainly in much better shape than before his presidency but as for bluffs he seems like mostly straight forward to me.
His ideas are a dated though. He was good for his time but not now anymore. It doesn’t mean he is super bad or a thug and all such stuff.

[dp0622]

If we were talking about the merits or lack thereof of H1B i would discuss it.

But putin just isn’t worth it.

I have a lousy temper and you’ll probably win the argument and i’ll resort to insulting words with my back against the wall and we’ll never talk again!

it’s not worth it :)

if you’d like to discuss it further I’d rather do it in mail where people can’t see me lose the argument :)