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Whistleblower Was Overheard in '17 Discussing With Ally How to Remove Trump
RealClearInvestigations ^ | 1/22/2020 | Paul Sperry

Posted on 01/22/2020 7:15:33 AM PST by edwinland

Barely two weeks after Donald Trump took office, Eric Ciaramella – the CIA analyst whose name was recently linked in a tweet by the president and mentioned by lawmakers as the anonymous “whistleblower" who touched off Trump's impeachment – was overheard in the White House discussing with another staffer how to remove the newly elected president from office, according to former colleagues.

Sources told RealClearInvestigations the staffer with whom Ciaramella was speaking was Sean Misko. Both were Obama administration holdovers working in the Trump White House on foreign policy and national security issues. And both expressed anger over Trump’s new “America First” foreign policy, a sea change from President Obama’s approach to international affairs.

“Just days after he was sworn in they were already talking about trying to get rid of him,” said a White House colleague who overheard their conversation.

“They weren’t just bent on subverting his agenda,” the former official added. “They were plotting to actually have him removed from office.”

Misko left the White House last summer to join House impeachment manager Adam Schiff’s committee, where sources say he offered “guidance” to the whistleblower, who has been officially identified only as an intelligence officer in a complaint against Trump filed under whistleblower laws. Misko then helped run the impeachment inquiry based on that complaint as a top investigator for congressional Democrats.

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A military staffer detailed to the NSC, who was seated directly in front of Ciaramella and Misko during the meeting, confirmed hearing them talk about toppling Trump during their private conversation, which the source said lasted about one minute. The crowd was preparing to get up to leave the room at the time.

“After Flynn briefed [the staff] about what ‘America first’ foreign policy means, Ciaramella turned to Misko and commented, ‘We need to take him out,’ ” the staffer recalled. “And Misko replied, ‘Yeah, we need to do everything we can to take out the president.’ “

Added the military detailee, who spoke on condition of anonymity: “By ‘taking him out,’ they meant removing him from office by any means necessary. They were triggered by Trump’s and Flynn’s vision for the world. This was the first ‘all hands’ [staff meeting] where they got to see Trump’s national security team, and they were huffing and puffing throughout the briefing any time Flynn said something they didn’t like about ‘America First.’ ”

He said he also overheard Ciaramella telling Misko, referring to Trump, ‘We can’t let him enact this foreign policy.’ “

Alarmed by their conversation, the military staffer immediately reported what he heard to his superiors.

“It was so shocking that they were so blatant and outspoken about their opinion,” he recalled. “They weren’t shouting it, but they didn’t seem to feel the need to hide it.”


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To: edwinland
I'm sure Alan Dershowitz already has a copy of that report.

If so, prepare for Nadler and Pelosi to blame President Trump for making them go through the whole impeachment process when he could have just given them the evidence, LOL. Schiffty will continue to say he has evidence that refutes the evidence of President Trump’s evidence.

21 posted on 01/22/2020 7:34:42 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: ManHunter
Subpoena is always an option and compel testimony under oath.

"After the Impeachment trial is over I'll have more freedom of action"

22 posted on 01/22/2020 7:37:14 AM PST by Don Corleone (The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
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To: edwinland

Somebody was blowing something? What?


23 posted on 01/22/2020 7:38:03 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Diogenesis

Because this is really no big deal. Of course, it may seem like a big deal to you and I but obviously it is no big deal to the people who get to decide it’s no big deal.


24 posted on 01/22/2020 7:43:16 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: onona

Flynn was gone soon after this incident. It’s been reported the hoaxblower was protected by McMaster even while he was a suspected leaker.


25 posted on 01/22/2020 7:48:30 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Yep, I would have fired everyone north of the maids and chefs.


26 posted on 01/22/2020 7:48:34 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: edwinland

“It goes to the credibility of the witness, Your Honor.”


27 posted on 01/22/2020 7:50:45 AM PST by jimfree (My19 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: edwinland

This is clear evidence of why every holdover, in EVERY Executive branch, from an outgoing Rat administration, should be sh!tcanned immediately. This includes State, DOJ, Defense, FBI, NSA, head of CIA. This includes rank-and-file types, as these were hired by the traitors.


28 posted on 01/22/2020 7:51:05 AM PST by bkopto
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To: edwinland

Thank God that democrats and socialists are so stupid and inept! Of course if they had brains and talent, they wouldn’t be leftists, so that one works out naturally (as do so many of God’s best plans).


29 posted on 01/22/2020 7:51:14 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: gswilder

Biden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoaj5rmTId0&pbjreload=10


30 posted on 01/22/2020 7:53:30 AM PST by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Meanwhile:

31 posted on 01/22/2020 7:54:19 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: edwinland

Deep State thugs need to be in prison


32 posted on 01/22/2020 7:55:20 AM PST by GOPJ (Will MSNBC bimbos go moist talking to Lev Parnas like they did with Michael Avenatti?)
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To: onona

“Added the military detailee, who spoke on condition of anonymity: “By ‘taking him out,’ they meant removing him from office by any means necessary.”

So why hasn’t the Secret Service interviewed them. “taking him out” could mean an assassination plot. And THEN, if it’s established they were not plotting an assassination, can them.


33 posted on 01/22/2020 7:58:19 AM PST by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: edwinland

“They weren’t shouting it, but they didn’t seem to feel the need to hide it.”

Apparently they were correct in not being concerned about treason. They are not in jail or even being investigated.


34 posted on 01/22/2020 8:01:16 AM PST by pas
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To: Westbrook

It was reported immediately. Therefore there is documentation.


35 posted on 01/22/2020 8:03:52 AM PST by HollyB
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To: Lurkinanloomin; onona; edwinland; Westbrook; ClearCase_guy; gswilder; ManHunter; ecomcon; ...
If Trump has an evident weakness, it is that he treats position holders in the government the same way he would treat position holders in the civilian world, say in a company he bought out or took over.

As far as he is concerned, he keeps people if they were doing their job well and assumes they will do the same thing going forward.

In the civilian world, I think that is fine. In the military, that is fine. In the political world, that is self destructive, especially in the hyper-partisan political environment where one thing is true: That holdover is a Leftist.

In the civilian world, an employee has to be beholden to and follow the direction of their supervisor. Or you get shown the door. You stop being an employee of person A and become an employee of person B. No questions asked.

In the military world, a soldier, sailor, or Marine has to be beholden to the direction of their superior. You have to be, or not only could your career be over, you could end up in the Brig or the Stockade. Once Ranking Person A leaves and Ranking Person B takes over, you must follow the direction of person B. You fail to do so at the peril of your liberty, your career, and in some cases, the lives of people serving with you. So you follow orders, no questions asked.

In politics, that is not the case, primarily with Leftists.

It has been my observation that people who are conservative (who don't simply get kicked to the curb as is routinely done by new Leftists) do one of two things: Serve at the direction of their new boss, or...leave of their own accord. Leftists, however, do not do that. You keep them on at your own peril if you are not a Leftist. And you must do so with the knowledge you are carrying a deadly poisonous fanged snake in a burlap bag in your pants pocket. If you do not adopt that mindset, Leftists will sabotage you, subvert you, embarrass you, undercut you, betray you, and try to destroy you, all while smiling to your face like a subservient underling.

There is one thing about Leftists that all non-Leftists MUST remember: Regardless of anything else they are or do, that is subjugated to Leftism.

  • Before they are Americans, they are Leftists.

Anyone who fails to keep this forefront in their mind (that when push comes to shove, a Leftist is going to be a Leftist before anything else) does so at their own peril and will eventually be reminded at the worst time that they have a venomous snake in their hip pocket.


36 posted on 01/22/2020 8:04:54 AM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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To: Mouton

Trump can perhaps be forgiven for thinking he was taking over an ailing corporation rather than an entity deliberately sabotaged over 24 years by the implantation of Leftist vipers and scorpions into “career” roles. Firing 80% of the Administration is a tall order at this point. It would not be nearly so tall had George W. Bush cleaned out the Clinton holdovers in 2001, as he should have. Obama might never have happened.


37 posted on 01/22/2020 8:04:57 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Westbrook

Exactly. What did this guy’s superior do when it was reported? Sound like he did nothing.


38 posted on 01/22/2020 8:05:00 AM PST by redshawk ( I want my red balloon. ( https://youtu.be/V12H2mteniE))
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To: Irish Eyes

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39 posted on 01/22/2020 8:08:41 AM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: BOBWADE

“ This was the first ‘all hands’ [staff meeting] where they got to see Trump’s national security team”

Sounds like there were many people in this staff meeting. These 2 were attendees- just commenting between each other while listening. I doubt it was caught on tape as the focus was on who was speaking to them and the rest of the attendees. .


40 posted on 01/22/2020 8:11:34 AM PST by HollyB
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