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Whistleblower Was Overheard in '17 Discussing With Ally How to Remove Trump
RealClearInvestigations ^ | 1/22/2020 | Paul Sperry

Posted on 01/22/2020 7:15:33 AM PST by edwinland

Barely two weeks after Donald Trump took office, Eric Ciaramella – the CIA analyst whose name was recently linked in a tweet by the president and mentioned by lawmakers as the anonymous “whistleblower" who touched off Trump's impeachment – was overheard in the White House discussing with another staffer how to remove the newly elected president from office, according to former colleagues.

Sources told RealClearInvestigations the staffer with whom Ciaramella was speaking was Sean Misko. Both were Obama administration holdovers working in the Trump White House on foreign policy and national security issues. And both expressed anger over Trump’s new “America First” foreign policy, a sea change from President Obama’s approach to international affairs.

“Just days after he was sworn in they were already talking about trying to get rid of him,” said a White House colleague who overheard their conversation.

“They weren’t just bent on subverting his agenda,” the former official added. “They were plotting to actually have him removed from office.”

Misko left the White House last summer to join House impeachment manager Adam Schiff’s committee, where sources say he offered “guidance” to the whistleblower, who has been officially identified only as an intelligence officer in a complaint against Trump filed under whistleblower laws. Misko then helped run the impeachment inquiry based on that complaint as a top investigator for congressional Democrats.

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A military staffer detailed to the NSC, who was seated directly in front of Ciaramella and Misko during the meeting, confirmed hearing them talk about toppling Trump during their private conversation, which the source said lasted about one minute. The crowd was preparing to get up to leave the room at the time.

“After Flynn briefed [the staff] about what ‘America first’ foreign policy means, Ciaramella turned to Misko and commented, ‘We need to take him out,’ ” the staffer recalled. “And Misko replied, ‘Yeah, we need to do everything we can to take out the president.’ “

Added the military detailee, who spoke on condition of anonymity: “By ‘taking him out,’ they meant removing him from office by any means necessary. They were triggered by Trump’s and Flynn’s vision for the world. This was the first ‘all hands’ [staff meeting] where they got to see Trump’s national security team, and they were huffing and puffing throughout the briefing any time Flynn said something they didn’t like about ‘America First.’ ”

He said he also overheard Ciaramella telling Misko, referring to Trump, ‘We can’t let him enact this foreign policy.’ “

Alarmed by their conversation, the military staffer immediately reported what he heard to his superiors.

“It was so shocking that they were so blatant and outspoken about their opinion,” he recalled. “They weren’t shouting it, but they didn’t seem to feel the need to hide it.”


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81 posted on 01/22/2020 6:14:38 PM PST by bitt (A government afraid of its citizens should be afraid.)
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To: rlmorel

Not when you are the new POTUS.

What are ‘they” going to do, Impeach you?

When faced with corruption and criminality, the Intel/CounterIntel world has 2 approaches.

A) Take out the enemy immediately.
B) Watch and follow to make your Target List of enemies.

Problem with the later is corruption is a contagion.

If you don’t act against it immediately, it festers and spreads. Worse, people begin to condone it to the point of acceptance and an “everybody does it” attitude.

From my perspective, the only decision to make is whether to have them lose their lives or placed in prison for a sentence not making it cost effective for the crime, including any conspirator benefit.

FBI and CIA are available for the latter decisions. If they are untrustworthy, not a problem, now you have what is it 13?, 16?, 18? Intelligence agencies to choose from.

If it continues down the chain of command, use the Valkyrie technique, go pull some fresh officer’s from OCS and groom them on your own and form your team. Make them UNTOUCHABLE.

At present, too many patriots will be used as canon fodder by the corrupt Deep State players for the Administration to control action from the top down.

IMHO.


82 posted on 01/22/2020 6:32:43 PM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Cvengr
"...Problem with the later is corruption is a contagion..."

Absolutely spot on.

83 posted on 01/22/2020 6:34:13 PM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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To: ptsal

Ahhhhhhhhhh. THANK YOU for that link, I missed it!

It sure does stink, doesn’t it? Sound filthy rich-where did they get all that money? Something like “cattle futures”?

Hmmm...


84 posted on 01/22/2020 6:37:12 PM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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To: ptsal

“watch the wives”


85 posted on 01/22/2020 7:25:29 PM PST by bitt (A government afraid of its citizens should be afraid.)
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To: edwinland

Sean Misko also worked for Hillary as part of the policy planning staff under Deputy Chief of Staff Jake Sullivan.
Schiff also hired Abigail Grace as an intelligence staffer for impeachment. She worked at NSC 2016-2018.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/10/13/no-surprise-schiff-reportedly-hired-two-nsc-aides-who-worked-with-ukraine-whistleblower-n2554644


86 posted on 01/22/2020 7:29:18 PM PST by stylin19a ((2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever))
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To: semimojo

Yeah. That’s why I’m hoping there’s a contemporaneous record of the anonymous source reporting this to his or her superior. Agree that if not it’s a nice to know but worthless piece of info.


87 posted on 01/22/2020 7:32:08 PM PST by edwinland
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To: edwinland
evidently this "whistleblower" was at the center of the Biden Ukraine foriegn aid extortion/racketeering operation from the beginning

Then they converted their ukraine extortion racket into magic articles of impeachment

as lowly tax slaves to our government this is how we get treated if we dare elect an outsider, the socialist oligarchs will impeach Trump and come for our guns

88 posted on 01/22/2020 8:41:32 PM PST by KTM rider ( .......than to post and remove all doubt)
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To: edwinland

These libs made these comments about Trump’s foreign policy at the time Bolton said this [note Flynn’s position on putting Iran on notice, too]:

FEBRUARY 9, 2017 : () Former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton discussed the potential designation of the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization on Thursday’s Breitbart News Daily with SiriusXM host Alex Marlow.
Noting that Iran’s Revolutionary Guards Corps may also receive such a designation, Bolton said that “those would be two excellent steps forward.”
“You can also see already, in the Washington Post and other mainstream media this morning, the effort by the bureaucracy to push back on that – arguments that if you designate the Muslim Brotherhood, you’ll stimulate extremism in the Muslim world,” he said. “It’s a typical example of seizing on something that could be used as a pretext and acting like it’s an underlying cause.”...
“As for the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps, not only is Iran itself the central banker of international terrorism, but the Guards are the source of much of the arming, training, and equipping of terrorist groups around the world. They obviously control the Iranian nuclear weapons program. Not only are they key to protecting the Ayatollah’s regime; they’re also big businessmen. So designating the Guards would have a significant impact on Iran, and I think help contribute to make it very clear that what National Security Adviser Michael Flynn said a few days ago – that Iran was ‘on notice’ that the Obama nuclear deal was in deep trouble. That would be a very palpable way of showing just how much trouble it’s in,” he said....


89 posted on 01/22/2020 8:58:58 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: rlmorel

Only Red Bone knows for sure.


90 posted on 01/22/2020 9:33:15 PM PST by ptsal
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To: ClearCase_guy

#5. Not a chance. Vidman would cover up these guys’ words.


91 posted on 01/23/2020 12:23:24 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures)
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To: HollyB
Here’s how the statute currently reads:
Ҥ 18.2-152.7:1. Harassment by computer; penalty.
If any person, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, or harass any person, shall use a computer or computer network to communicate obscene, vulgar, profane, lewd, lascivious, or indecent language, or make any suggestion or proposal of an obscene nature, or threaten any illegal or immoral act, he shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.”

and Ҥ 18.2-430. Venue for offenses under this article.
Any person violating any of the provisions of this article may be prosecuted either in the county or city from which he called or in the county or city in which the call was received.”

Looks like they added language specifically for elected officials and dragging the party to Richmond for trial.

92 posted on 01/23/2020 4:31:38 AM PST by cidrasm
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To: cidrasm

Agree. That’s infringing on free speech.


93 posted on 01/23/2020 9:12:23 AM PST by HollyB
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To: cidrasm

And thank you. It’s important for me to have facts.


94 posted on 01/23/2020 9:14:02 AM PST by HollyB
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To: HollyB

Any time.


95 posted on 01/23/2020 4:23:58 PM PST by cidrasm
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