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He was a rapist. Deal with it': Disney heiress Abigail Disney weighs in on Kobe Bryant's rape case past
Daily Mail ^ | 1-29-2020 | Leah Simpson

Posted on 01/29/2020 8:26:06 PM PST by ZagFan

Abigail Disney has weighed in on Kobe Bryant's controversial past, after actress Evan Rachel Wood and a Washington Post journalist were berated for tweeting about a rape allegation against him from 2003, just hours after his death in a helicopter crash Sunday.

Disney - whose grandfather Roy O. Disney co-founded The Walt Disney Company - tweeted: 'I haven't said anything about Kobe so far because I felt some time needed to pass before weighing in. But yes, it's time for the sledgehammer to come out. The man was a rapist. Deal with it.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: ZagFan

1. He’s dead.
2. Accusations do not equate to evidence of guilt.


41 posted on 01/29/2020 9:07:08 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: ConservativeMind

“Well, was he a rapist?”

personally, i don’t think so, and never did ... i live in colorado and when the news broke that some mountain hotel maid in colorado was claiming rape, i didn’t even know who kobe bryant was ... but when i realized he was a famous basketball player and i listened to her story, i concluded even then that she was a low-life hotel maid that was simply trying to extort some bucks from a rich and famous guy ...


42 posted on 01/29/2020 9:07:16 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

There are numerous verb tenses.

However, if you like, Clinton will still BE a rapist after he’s dead. He’ll be a dead rapist. You’ll *never* get closure that way.


43 posted on 01/29/2020 9:07:48 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Progressive Mafia.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The truth is not pretty.
44 posted on 01/29/2020 9:07:54 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Reno89519; ConservativeMind

“Yes, he was. He admitted as much.”

bullshit ... he always claimed the sex was consensual and she was simply trying to shake him down ...


45 posted on 01/29/2020 9:08:31 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: calenel

Dead rapist is the best kind.


46 posted on 01/29/2020 9:08:45 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Nateman

Are you and others Ive seen say this serious? So even if it was undeniably true that a person was a rapist we should never say it because he is dead? Is there a certain time period after death we shouldn’t say it? Does this apply also if the person was convicted of said crime and imprisoned? This is just absurd. There is strong evidence he raped a woman. I’s an undeniable part of his legacy. Yes deal with it


47 posted on 01/29/2020 9:08:57 PM PST by deanking
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To: MinorityRepublican

Idolizing understates what sports fans are doing in Los Angeles.


48 posted on 01/29/2020 9:09:32 PM PST by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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To: ZagFan
I don't know what happened between Kobe and that girl but she agreed to settle out of court instead of testifying under oath he raped her. My personal belief is that if I were a victim of a real attack, I would hope I would seek justice and punish the accused and not simply settle out of court. That she settled makes me believe it wasn't 'rape-rape' but something did transpire between the two of them. Kobe was lucky and likely learned his lesson not to try anything with anyone again.

If Abigail went to college (and I don't know why she would bother since she's worth millions) she likely attended a sexual assault lecture where she was told, 'look to your left. Now look to your right. One of the men sitting on either side of you is going to attempt to rape you'.

There's a group of women who believe every man is a potential rapist (though it's not a bad idea to be cautious of people you don't know well) and when a woman says she was raped you have to believer her (despite the examples we have of women lying about being raped) so it's easy for her to believe Kobe committed rape.

You can't reason with these kind of women. All you can do is avoid them.

49 posted on 01/29/2020 9:14:57 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: ZagFan

Wasn’t everyone calling him a rapist just a few short years ago?


50 posted on 01/29/2020 9:15:59 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: ZagFan

And al-Baghdadi was an “austere religious scholar”.


51 posted on 01/29/2020 9:24:54 PM PST by Religion and Politics (It is time for more than one denomination of "Political Correctness".)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"You didn't research s--t." ... "This woman willingly went up to Kobe's hotel room in the dead of night and was likely rejected."

Did you research the case, because you seem to know nothing about it, and are making a bunch of incorrect assumptions.

“[The nurse] stated that there were several lacerations to the victim’s posterior fourchette or vaginal area, and two of those lacerations were approximately one centimeter in length,” testified Det. Winters. “And there were many, I believe, 2 millimeter lacerations. Too many to count… [The nurse] stated that the injuries were consistent with penetrating genital trauma. That it’s not consistent with consensual sex.”
 
Det. Winters further stated that the nurse told him the vaginal injuries had most likely occurred within “24 hours,” and that the accuser had “a small bruise on her left jaw line.” Also, that examiners had found “blood excretions” on Bryant’s T-shirt “to about the waistline.” The blood, testified Det. Winters, had “the same DNA profile as the victim in this case.”

52 posted on 01/29/2020 9:25:34 PM PST by Wayne07
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To: ConservativeMind

There is a lot of money to be made by accusing a rich man of rape.


53 posted on 01/29/2020 9:25:58 PM PST by libh8er
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To: ZagFan

This POS rotten feminazi would not STFU during Kavanaugh and even hurling sh*t at the wife and children (via Tweets how brave). The difference was that Kavanaugh didn’t do any of what was alleged by that POS fake Ford and Bryant pretty much admitted to it without admitting to it legally. The woman raped by Bryant was very credible and was believed but NOT by the scum left ironically.


54 posted on 01/29/2020 9:27:43 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The DailyBeast article is leaving out information.


55 posted on 01/29/2020 9:28:14 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: Nateman

He was either a rapist or he engaged in very rough sex with a stranger without permission for the roughness (choking, bruises, vaginal tears and bleeding) which would have become rape when she protested the choking and pain and he didn’t stop.

Maybe people mentioning the rape are partly objecting to the adulation of Kobe Bryant, the public grief, the required condolences and sorrow from any public figure with a Twitter account.

Surely many of the people feeling so shocked and bereft have lost someone close. Don’t they know what real grief and loss is? What is the point of all this public ritual? The man was a gifted athlete and an entertainer.

Like Princess Diana (and the people with her) and JFK jr (and his wife and her sister), Kobe Bryant (and the people with him, afterthoughts) died precisely because he was rich and famous.


56 posted on 01/29/2020 9:28:27 PM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

[Everybody keeps talking about anal rape, apparently because that was the rumor at the time. Care to share a link substantiating the salacious claim?]


No clue whether it panned out, but the central salacious claim isn’t anal rape - it’s rape accompanied by neck bruising from being held in place via strangulation. The girl got OJ’d by Bryant’s vastly superior financial resources, and chose a financial settlement over a public trial during which her name and face would be plastered all over the internet. This was before today’s #MeToo culture when even trading sex for favors makes a woman a victim. Back then, rape victims were considered Jezebels who had it coming*.

Here’s the prosecutor’s account of what happened once Bryant got lawyered up:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28591646/kobe-bryant-colorado-prosecutor-recalls-case-linked-them
[The frenzy overwhelmed his case too. Reporters would do their own investigations and “mess things up,” Hurlbert says, by both interviewing potential witnesses and scaring off others. Most media didn’t print the woman’s name, but the Eagle County court, which Hurlbert did not oversee and was in a different part of county government, mistakenly released her identity to the media three times, and a sealed transcript of a closed hearing on DNA evidence was emailed to media outlets. Hurlbert believed that “it truly was an accident” by the court, but the damage was done. The woman’s identity became the worst-kept secret around town. Pamela Mackey, Bryant’s attorney, had disclosed the woman’s name six times in a preliminary hearing and had cited her sexual history. “It was the start of a nightmare for this woman,” says Mark Shaw, a lawyer and reporter who covered the case for ESPN. “It was the accuse-the-accuser defense. From that point on, she didn’t have a chance. She was looked at as this person who was putting this poor celebrity through all of this anguish.”

Some legal experts believed that the prosecution and court were overmatched by the magnitude of the case and by Bryant’s resources. But Hurlbert tried his best to remember that, at its core, it was a routine sexual assault case, the kind he had prosecuted before. He assigned two prosecutors to it. “We felt we had a handle on it,” he says.

But in late August 2004, just days before the trial was to begin, the woman, who declined to comment Wednesday through her attorney, informed Hurlbert that she didn’t want to testify. He understood. He asked her to think about it for a few days. During that time, he called other prosecutors for their advice on what was left of a rape case if the accuser refused to testify. The consensus: The case was over. Hurlbert technically could subpoena her, but he felt that would be amoral. He called her, but her mind was made up. He respected her decision.

On Sept. 1, 2004, he dropped the case. Bryant released a statement, apologizing to the woman and her family while admitting no guilt. The two sides reached a confidential civil settlement in March 2005. “I was disappointed that we had to dismiss the case,” Hurlbert says now. “I wish it had gone to a 12-person jury.

“But the victim was going through hell.”]


* As LP Hartley once wrote - the past is a foreign country; they do things differently there.


57 posted on 01/29/2020 9:30:50 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: ConservativeMind

“Well, was he a rapist?”

No. Of course not. Forced sodomization minutes after meeting someone isn’t rape.

Right?


58 posted on 01/29/2020 9:31:59 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Funny how there are no replies.

Bryant admitted it and later paid her off.


59 posted on 01/29/2020 9:33:46 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Rastus
Unlike a lot of the #metoo victims, she went to the police straight away.

It was the next day, as I recall.

What I found amazing about this case was that the press zealously guards the names of rape victims but, in this one exception, the media gleefully revealed the woman's name and repeated hearsay evidence from men she'd dated.

Laker fans worldwide weighed the interests of a rape victim versus seeing their star athlete in jail for an extended period of time and decided to attack and smear the woman with the gleeful assistance of the media that saw their own financial hit coming if Kobe didn't play. It was the most unfair thing I'd ever seen until the 2016 election.

60 posted on 01/29/2020 9:34:13 PM PST by OrangeHoof (The Democrats - Unafraid to burn in Hell.)
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