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Democrats redefine center as theirs collapses
The Hill ^ | February 16, 2020 | J. T. Young

Posted on 02/16/2020 2:49:25 PM PST by karpov

With their center’s collapse, Democrats’ only hope of reconstituting it is by redefining the center. As the Democratic primary race moves leftward, the definitions of their candidates are moving right. It resembles a play in which we are expected to accept that the same actors have become different characters simply because of a costume change.

When the 2020 Democratic field was taking shape a year ago, its spread was straightforward. Former Vice President Joe Biden was the establishment anchor, in a center-left, front-runner position. A couple of candidates were to his right – Montana Gov. Steve Bullock and former Rep. Joe Sestak (D-Pa.) – with most of the rest of the extended field to his left.

Once the debates began eight months ago, the field’s small right quickly disappeared, as the campaign moved decidedly to the left. Even as its candidate lineup barely shrunk, its ideological range narrowed greatly, extending only from center-left to extreme left.

Now as active voting has begun, the Democratic race has run left even more quickly. Gone is national polling’s illusion that there was a sizable percentage of primary voters who would keep Biden ahead. Those actually participating in the Democrats’ first two contests are voting even further left than Democrats have polled.

Just two contests in and Biden has collapsed. He has gone from front-runner to back-burner. The outcome that was supposed to be inevitable has unraveled faster than anyone expected.

Now the Democratic field ideologically stretches barely at all. It runs from left to extreme left; and to the extent that the remaining candidates are trying to differentiate themselves, it’s by moving even still further left.

Unable to admit the obvious, or hold the center, party leaders are hurriedly seeking to recast their field to the center.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Delaware; US: Iowa; US: Massachusetts; US: Nevada; US: New Hampshire; US: Pennsylvania; US: South Carolina; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: berniesanders; center; clowncar; delaware; elizabethwarren; fauxahontas; iowa; joebiden; joeclowncarbiden; joesestak; jtyoung; massachusetts; nevada; newhampshire; pennsylvania; slingingbull; southcarolina; thehill; thehillary; theshill; vermont
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1 posted on 02/16/2020 2:49:25 PM PST by karpov
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To: karpov

Today you have socialists on the left, socialists on the far left, and communists on the extreme far left.


2 posted on 02/16/2020 2:57:40 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: karpov
THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM TO A LEFTIST

[_X___________________________X____________________________]

The center            Radical Far Right


THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM TO A CONSERVATIVE

[_X___________________________X____________________________]
Radical Far LEFT         The Center

3 posted on 02/16/2020 3:01:06 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The DNC has a taxidermist on speed dial for Nancy, Hillary, and Ruth.)
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To: karpov

There is no center anymore. When you have a “multicultural” entity that’s gassed up on identity politics then there isn’t a center. It’s tribal warfare squabbling over who gets the spoils.


4 posted on 02/16/2020 3:06:42 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44

There’s been an assumption that Biden/Klob/Buttig/Bbrg really were just a single candidate, and eventually as each drops out his/her support would flow to the remainder until only one was left, with 60-70% of the party in pocket.

It increasingly appears that this is not so. Blacks are not going to vote for anyone but Biden. Bloomberg is a pariah because of his wealth and the perception that he hasn’t earned his support. Young voters detest Buttigieg who seems like an apple polisher and resume burnisher, and not someone who has ever faced any struggles. And Klobuchar’s never really had much of a national backing, perhaps because of her well known anger management issues.


5 posted on 02/16/2020 3:24:36 PM PST by babble-on
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To: karpov
TOO LATE! We've got videos. Lots and lots of dembecile reruns 🍿!
6 posted on 02/16/2020 3:26:54 PM PST by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON.)
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To: karpov

The democrats are throwing 2020. The entire impeachment was to take our Biden, and ensure a far leftie gets the nomination and gets crushed this fall.. Nancy’s speech staged temper tantrum is part and parcel of this as well

They know they far left can’t win outside very limited blue enclaves ans it’s gainiing too much influence and power.

They are rope a doping the radical left by giving them exactly what they want so thr party can moderate the 2024 cycle.


7 posted on 02/16/2020 3:33:22 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: karpov
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity...
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

--William Butler Yeats

8 posted on 02/16/2020 3:33:35 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: Shadow44

You nailed it, FRiend Shadow

I was talking to a fellow patriot at a local thrift store the other day.

“You know, this political mess doesn’t really have all that much to do with the economy, or abortion, or the Middle East, or any one real issue.

“It’s really about tribalism. My tribe over your tribe. It’s about the Ivy League elites trying to assert their feelings of superiority over us regular folks.”


9 posted on 02/16/2020 3:41:58 PM PST by Nothingburger
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To: karpov

Joe was their moderate “anchor,” but I believe he failed because he’s obviously incompetent, not because he was too close to center.

I believe (hope) that the candidates’ quick move move to the left will disenfrachise “reasonable” democrats.


10 posted on 02/16/2020 3:44:55 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: babble-on

“Klobuchar’s never really had much of a national backing, “

She can down a beer at 6am. That should garner some support.


11 posted on 02/16/2020 3:52:36 PM PST by dynachrome (Build the wall, deport them all. And send her back!)
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To: HamiltonJay

I think your comment is logical but do you really think the power hungry Dems are willing to sacrifice a Presidential election? I think they rather like the lefty positions and are drinking their own (tainted) KoolAid.


12 posted on 02/16/2020 3:52:51 PM PST by luv2ski
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To: karpov

This is excellent.


13 posted on 02/16/2020 3:54:57 PM PST by Luke21
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To: karpov
They [Dems] must hide that their field is willingly conceding traditional American positions to him — our capitalist economic system, law and order, defense and enforcement of our immigration laws, among others.

As long predicted it is boiling down to those who love the country and those who hate it. Trump's unabashed love of country has ceded him the center. There doesn't appear to be anyone on the Dem roster who can reverse this trend.

14 posted on 02/16/2020 4:01:15 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: karpov
Embrace the Bernie, dems. Your projections onto Republicans is why you are standing hip deep in Socialist contenders for your nomination. PROJECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES 🍿!
15 posted on 02/16/2020 4:01:43 PM PST by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON.)
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To: luv2ski

Absolutely they aren’t sacrificing something they can’t win...

Look, pundits get paid to talk not tell you the truth.

The truth is, in the past 120 year a president who won their first term and ran for a second only 4 times have they lost... and 3 of those 4 were due to the economy... and every other president who has ran for a second term in that time with the sole exception of Obama has won their second term by far more votes than their first.

The Dems know they are losing this cycle no matter who the nominee is.. the rank and file may not know it but the people at the top know... so they can lose wirh Biden as the nominee and have the far left say see we didn’t go left enough and continue to gain influence and power.. or they can give them the nomination making sure they get crushed and then kneecap them with it and moderate for 2024 when they actually will be thr odds on favorite historically to win.

If you think I am incorrect please answer the following. If you were a democrat and your goal was to lose the 2024 election by the biggest margin possible.. what would you do differently than what they have been doing?


16 posted on 02/16/2020 4:06:59 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
Check out this hilarious parody of the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show!

Ladies and gentlemen... The Candidates!

Click the picture below

-PJ

17 posted on 02/16/2020 4:11:00 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: karpov

Democrats often redefine words:

-Increases in spending are “cuts”

-Global warming is real and WE (You) have to do something.

-If YOU (We DeepStaters) like your healthcare YOU (WE Deepstaters) can keep your (OUR) healthcare.

-”Is”....


18 posted on 02/16/2020 4:24:07 PM PST by JPJones (More Tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: Shadow44

“When you have a “multicultural” entity that’s gassed up on identity politics then there isn’t a center. It’s tribal warfare squabbling over who gets the spoils.”

Good point. There is one group though that’s missing in action from that tribal war - whites. We seem to be the pinata that gets shaken down.


19 posted on 02/16/2020 4:24:58 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: Publius

“The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity...”

Boy, does that nail our times or what?

I wonder what was happening in the world when Yeats wrote that.


20 posted on 02/16/2020 4:29:59 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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