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Democrats redefine center as theirs collapses
The Hill ^ | February 16, 2020 | J. T. Young

Posted on 02/16/2020 2:49:25 PM PST by karpov

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To: aquila48

World War I.


21 posted on 02/16/2020 4:32:29 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Lol, that’s awesome!

I sent that to my kids in college.


22 posted on 02/16/2020 4:33:47 PM PST by JPJones (More Tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: karpov

Consider this. The Left has rejected our Creator. The Left rejects the nuclear family. My guess is that if statistics could removed from secrecy it would show that the Left’s birth rate is negative. On top of that, the Left aborts before a live birth.

On the other hand, I would posit that the Conservative birth rate is at least slightly above zero with abortion being less prevalent.

What is left for the Left? They must cobble together all the remaining groups that would have heretofore simply been marginalized by normal society. The Left simply must give these fringe groups status to keep them as a voting bloc. Additionally, the Left must import illegal immigrants, again, all this is because the Left’s birth rate is negative versus a positive birth rate for Conservatives.

The point is, this is how we have gotten here. This is how all the fringe groups have become so politically powerful. The Left needs these marginalized groups, and the media, Hollywood, and acidemia therefore have pandered to these groups to try and keep their power. The Left has now devolved into a loose confederation of fringe groups, no matter how utterly kooky they are. Absent mass immigration, I do not see how the Democrat Party continues much longer as a national Party. Sure they will win some local elections using enough camouflage, but nationally they are toast unless they find some unique, blank-slate Obama type with no records. That will be hard to replicate.


23 posted on 02/16/2020 4:39:19 PM PST by Obadiah (Kill the deep state or lose the Republic.)
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To: MV=PY

Biden wasn’t even really running as a moderate candidate. If you look at his policy page, it’s one of the most extreme Left platforms.

His whole campaign is incoherent, he’s banking on Working Class Whites to feel a connection for him, even though he’s doing nothing but repudiating every policy decision he ever took that angers the irate SJW left.

The working class isn’t going to think highly of “Lunch-pail Joe” apologizing for the 1994 Crime Bill by saying it was motivated purely out of white supremacy.


24 posted on 02/16/2020 4:40:30 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: babble-on
There is an assumption that the party will unify around the nominee. Do you think Bernie's supporters will go for Bloomberg, or vice versa? Biden is supposed to be the "normal" candidate, yet this flies in the face of reality. Not going to get much unification there. Warren is even more unlikeable than Hillary. Buttigieg, Klobuchar? I really think that they are gunning for 2024. No one who has lost a presidential race in his past has won the nomination in over fifty years. To the Democrats, losing to Trump would not be a resume enhancement. Democrats are always on the lookout for the next shiny object.

Don't get me wrong. We should assume NOTHING. But the Democrats appear to be all over the map with no unity in sight.

25 posted on 02/16/2020 4:44:45 PM PST by fhayek
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To: fhayek

I’m pretty sure they did polling and it came out that 47% of Bernie supporters would not unconditionally support the Democrat nominee if it wasn’t Sanders.

A lot of “Berniebros” are already sour on the DNC, and if they steal the nomination from Sanders a second time they’re going to bolt for good.


26 posted on 02/16/2020 4:51:07 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: HamiltonJay
The democrats are throwing 2020. The entire impeachment was to take our Biden, and ensure a far leftie gets the nomination and gets crushed this fall.. Nancy’s speech staged temper tantrum is part and parcel of this as well They know they far left can’t win outside very limited blue enclaves ans it’s gainiing too much influence and power. They are rope a doping the radical left by giving them exactly what they want so thr party can moderate the 2024 cycle.

I respectfully disagree. The impeachment fiasco was to prevent a full mutiny by the hard left who are not going away inside the 'Rat party. The Bolshevik millennials are ascendant while any who may have voted for JFK or Hubert Humphrey are dying off or already voting R. This current cycle is an ego-stroke, money raising/laundering exercise to position for 2024. They'll not moderate but stick to the plan of having the government schools deliver an electorate dumbed-down, and doped-up enough to vote for their utopia.

27 posted on 02/16/2020 5:13:30 PM PST by Kickaha (See the glory...of the royal scam)
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To: Kickaha

Yep, Nancy was almost deposed from leadership for not being radical enough. The DNC has gaslit their base and they lost control of them. It turns out that their “coalition of ascendant” squad memebers like Ilhan Omar aren’t going to just sit back and be tokens while the party leadership remains in the hands of Octogenarians.

They can’t do anything but double down at this point.


28 posted on 02/16/2020 5:20:43 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: karpov

The reason the democrat field looks the way it does this year is 100% due to President Trump. For all the accusations of him being an “authoritarian,” a right winger, far right, etc, he is for the most part governing as centrist. I view him as more of a JFK era democrat. Democrats can’t move to the center, because that’s where President Trump is sitting. This was their own fault, constantly demonizing everything he said and did for three years. Now they have nowhere to go but the far left, and lose.


29 posted on 02/16/2020 5:32:17 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Shadow44

If the Republicans can shake being the stupid party this could be parlayed into an enduring advantage, I’m not hopeful.


30 posted on 02/16/2020 5:44:10 PM PST by Kickaha (See the glory...of the royal scam)
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To: Vince Ferrer
I view him as more of a JFK era democrat.

("Oh, he's no conservative") He's more of a conservative Republican than any GOPer I've ever seen... He's doing all the things those spineless wimps always talked about but never did.

31 posted on 02/16/2020 5:45:49 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (We need to reach across the aisle, extend a hand...And slap the crap out of them)
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To: karpov

I used to vote for a DLC Democrat named... Bill Clinton.

I liked his centrist take on the issues. Such Democrats have disappeared.

And socialism? It ain’t my cup of tea.


32 posted on 02/16/2020 5:47:00 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: karpov

Their political diversity is limited.

As a film critic once said “Her acting talent runs the full gamut from A all the way to B.”


33 posted on 02/16/2020 6:05:34 PM PST by frank ballenger (End vote harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: Shadow44
There is no center anymore.

Well maybe the RINOs....unless they're total RATs.

34 posted on 02/16/2020 6:13:43 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (We need to reach across the aisle, extend a hand...And slap the crap out of them)
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To: Publius
World War I

Yup. That war was totally insane.

Most of the leaders of the European countries that fought each other were related to each other.

Their citizens should have stormed their capitals and killed off their leaders.

That would have saved a lot of bloodshed (and kept the US out of that horrid war).
35 posted on 02/16/2020 7:35:30 PM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: HamiltonJay

Your theory is reasonable, especially when you consider Bernie’s age (he won’t be causing trouble by 2014), AOC’s incursion (sponsoring far left candidates to primary sitting Dems), and the long-time Democrat objective of dragging the country slowly to the left, rather than all at once.

If they lose badly, AOC’s name will be dirt, Bernie will be gone, and “moderation” can return to the Democrat Party again, i.e., the ability to disguise their intentions to drag the country left, one small step at a time.

But the NeverTrumpers are having nothing of it. Instead, they’re positioning Klobuchar to be the eventual candidate, hoping she can be the one who gathers the 60% of the votes that Bernie isn’t destined to ever get in the Dem primaries. And, frankly, she scares me. A few mis-steps by Trump over the next few months and she could corral the suburban women vote that Trump seems to have put up for grabs with his tweetstorms. Just my two cents.


36 posted on 02/16/2020 8:02:02 PM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: Norseman

Sorry...Bernie...2024, not 2014


37 posted on 02/16/2020 8:03:09 PM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: babble-on
And Klobuchar’s never really had much of a national backing, perhaps because of her well known anger management issues.

Her voice and nose don't help much either.

38 posted on 02/16/2020 8:15:57 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Mocking Liberals is not only a right, but the duty of all Americans.)
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To: Kickaha

Sorry but I don’t agree in the least.. Nancy was adamant no impeachment until UKraine came up.. they have claimed he’s broken every law there is since he was inaugurated. Before then in fact but it wasn’t until Ykraine showed up that thr 180 happened.

Why? Because UKraine taints Biden, not Trump. How many times was Biden mentioned by the house managers during thr inpeachment? They repeated Burisma and Biden ad nauseum. Before the staged impeachment only the most die hard politicos could have named hunter Biden let alon his connection with Burisma.

Everything thr Dems are doing is to throw 2020 and knee cap the left wing of their party.. absolute rope a dope in order to moderate in 2024 when they have a shot at winning.

As I said if you were a democrat and you were tasked with making sure you lose this falls election by thr biggest margin possible, tell me one thing, just one thing you would do differently than what the democrats have been doing.


39 posted on 02/16/2020 10:43:57 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: cgbg

WWI spread Spanish Flu, which killed more Americans than WWI, WWII, AND the wars in VN, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan.


40 posted on 02/17/2020 2:03:28 AM PST by Does so (...Democrats believe in democracy when they win the election...)
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