Don’t buy China’s story: The coronavirus may have leaked from a lab

ny post ^ | 2/22/2020 | mosher

[RummyChick]

At an emergency meeting in Beijing held last Friday, Chinese leader Xi Jinping spoke about the need to contain the coronavirus and set up a system to prevent similar epidemics in the future.

A national system to control biosecurity risks must be put in place “to protect the people’s health,” Xi said, because lab safety is a “national security” issue.

Xi didn’t actually admit that the coronavirus now devastating large swathes of China had escaped from one of the country’s bioresearch labs. But the very next day, evidence emerged suggesting that this is exactly what happened, as the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology released a new directive entitled: “Instructions on strengthening biosecurity management in microbiology labs that handle advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus.”

Read that again. It sure sounds like China has a problem keeping dangerous pathogens in test tubes where they belong, doesn’t it? And just how many “microbiology labs” are there in China that handle “advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus”?

[Georgia Girl 2]

Raise your hand if you didn’t know it leaked from a lab.

[Revel]

I knew the very first time I heard about it and how crazy it was genetically. There is not way that suddenly happened in nature.

[RummyChick]

they are probably a fan of Koontz

[Tench_Coxe]

By the way Bejing reacted, it was a pretty good guess that they were freaking out.

Now how much bigger of a problem is this going to turn into? And how is this going to affect how the world regards/treats China?

[rrrod]

Sens Rubio, Scott and Cotton have hinted at this.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Buh... buh... the media yells “DEBUNKED !” every time this comes up.

[Carriage Hill]

I thought it was a bad batch of Bat Soup... heh.

[Eleutheria5]

Could just as well have come from a backwoods farmer copulating with his prize pig.

I doubt we’ll get any straight answers from XiJingPing, to questions “such as where are your bio labs located, and what sort of research do they do?”

So one or the other, it makes no difference. Lab leak or frisky farmer?

[DoughtyOne]

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[Orosius]

That’s the first thing I said to the wife back when the first reports came out. Biowarfare blowback.

[BenLurkin]

Except the Wuhan Flu of 2019-2020 probably does leave dangerous fomites.

[WildHighlander57]

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[RummyChick]

Well..clearly it isn’t an exact fit. They developed something better but it clearly wasn’t perfected when it escaped.

[Capt. Tom]

By the way Bejing reacted, it was a pretty good guess that they were freaking out.

The Chinese Govt's seemingly overreaction to this flu virus seemed unusual and suspicious.<>You would'nt have that type of a reaction until after many months of experience with this flu- if it was new to you.

But immediately the Chinese seemed to know a lot about a new flu virus the world had not seen, and the threat it posed. Like they had knowledge of it and it's potential.
That would bolster the theory it came from one of their labs. -Tom

[BluH2o]

Lived in CT for a number of years. During that period Lyme's disease carried by ticks emerged in Lyme, CT which is close
by Plum Island where the US gov’t experiments with anthrax & other deadly diseases. The distance direct line from Old Lyme, CT to Plum Island, NY at the very eastern end of Long Island
is maybe 12-14 miles ... across the eastern end of LI Sound.
It was rumored experiments were being carried out on Plum Island testing methods of spreading disease with ticks. Ticks escaped and made their way to CT on birds. It is well established that tick born diseases were not that prevalent in New England until Lyme disease became a major issue.

[WildHighlander57]

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[RummyChick]

I posted a vide of them actually welding a door shut to an apartment building locking people in.

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The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

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[Bon mots]

It seems particularly deadly for Han Chinese, who make up the majority of the population of Taiwan.

Plenty of these things escape from labs.

• Hansens Disease (Leprosy) now infects armadillos - which can pass it to humans, after they were deliberately infected in a lab for study, and from which they later escaped.
• Killer bees escaped from a lab
• In Russia, a woman caught smallpox in the lab where it was held in a safe on some other floor, far away
• Reston Virus escaped from a lab in the USA in Reston, Virginia - thankfully while it was deadly for monkeys, it is harmless to humans.
• 1977 H1N1 flu (Thanks China!) - Due to lab mishandling, a strain of the H1N1 influenza managed to escaped from a Chinese facility that was likely trying to create a vaccine for the disease. The virus spread globally and had an infection rate of 20% to 70% among those exposed. Luckily, the strain of the virus caused only mild disease and few fatalities.
• Smallpox in the UK: From 1963 to 1978, there were three smallpox escapes from two different laboratories. All three were due to poor standards and bad practices within the labs. Three cases and at least 80 deaths were linked to the outbreaks.
• 1995 Equine Encephalitis - In 1995, 10,000 people in Venezuela and 75,000 people in Colombia fell ill with a VEE strain that had escaped from a lab. The outbreak caused upwards of 311 deaths and 3,000 cases of neurological complications.
• SARS - Since the original epidemic, there have been six escapes of the virus from laboratories — four in Beijing, and an additional one each in Singapore and Taiwan.
• Hoof and Mouth Disease (UK) - In 2007, 278 animals in the UK became infected with FMD after the virus escaped from a biosafety lab four kilometers away. The outbreak required 1,578 animals to be culled and cost an estimated 200 million pounds.

Oh, but we're all paranoid conspiracy theorists for thinking that this escaped from a lab in China - which has already had this happen a half dozen times...THAT WE KNOW ABOUT!