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The Great Coronavirus War Is Upon Us
Townhall.com ^ | March 12, 2020 | Victor, Davis Hanson

Posted on 03/12/2020 4:41:18 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Georgia Girl 2
Corona virus hits the wall at about 80 degrees. Warm weather for most of us is only weeks away. The flu season will be over in 4-6 weeks.

We keep saying that, and I hope its true, but there are outbreaks in Brazil, Indonesia, Malaysia, Australia, India, Panama, Costa Rica, South Africa and Ecuador. All tropical or enjoying summer.

121 posted on 03/12/2020 7:13:08 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: Black Agnes

I’m over 65 and have or have had diabetes, hypertension, cancer, obesity...


122 posted on 03/12/2020 7:15:45 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: Black Agnes; Lazamataz

I’m more screwed than Laz!


123 posted on 03/12/2020 7:16:30 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: null and void

We’ll donate to the cause of your choice in lieu of flowers...


124 posted on 03/12/2020 7:18:42 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: null and void

Still hoping we don’t have anything that overruns our ICUs.

Those pics of the clearly young people in Italy on ventilators were enlightening.


125 posted on 03/12/2020 7:20:06 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: glennaro

Education? What’s that, “don’t you see how bad it is, it’s 10,000x worse than anything”.

It’s a corona virus with a respiratory stress component. AKA Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome-2 or SARS-2. It has a 6% fatality rate among the elderly and people with underlying conditions such as diabetes and coronary artery disease.

If the fear mongers weren’t so concerned about “educating us” they’d have advised elderly, diabetic and heart disease FReepers to get an oxygen bottle and breather in case of infection.


126 posted on 03/12/2020 7:22:12 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Elsie

Hear, hear!


127 posted on 03/12/2020 7:24:37 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: null and void
You are so screwed.


128 posted on 03/12/2020 7:24:58 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I died of coronavirus and all I got was this lousy t-shirt. And a coffin.)
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To: billyboy15

It’s like this: most people are in denial until it hits code to home.
Then they overreact.

Back in the 1960s this kind of thing was called “consciousness raising.”


129 posted on 03/12/2020 7:25:21 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: AndyJackson

I bet you hyperventilate as you type every one of your captivating posts. Seems you are truly an expert in this field.


130 posted on 03/12/2020 7:28:22 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Leep

Asymptomatic spread.
Among children.


131 posted on 03/12/2020 7:29:14 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: null and void

They also on occasion can get the flu in those places. It is not 100% temperature dependent.


132 posted on 03/12/2020 7:32:49 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Georgia Girl 2; Travis McGee
You also have to take into account that there are currently no real accurate figures on the number of people infected as so many hardly exhibit symptoms so that pushes a skewed death toll percentage.

Actually, in the US there have been because cases that are detected by PH authorities lead to vigorous contact tracing. They might be off by a factor of 50-100% but when infections are doubling every couple of days that means you are only inaccurate by a day and a half. Further based upon all of this you can backward and forward project to correct the figures.

Competent statisticians do this all the time.

133 posted on 03/12/2020 7:36:27 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Thebatupidity/normalcy bias people are exhibiting here is insane.


134 posted on 03/12/2020 7:44:39 AM PDT by socalgop
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To: Black Agnes
FR! DUH!
135 posted on 03/12/2020 7:47:25 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: Justa

‘We’ have been saying elderly need to hunker down for weeks now.

But ‘we’ were accused of being irrational and inciting panic.


136 posted on 03/12/2020 7:48:47 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Justa
It has a 6% fatality rate among the elderly and people with underlying conditions such as diabetes and coronary artery disease.

Source, please?


137 posted on 03/12/2020 7:50:28 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: null and void
I would like to point out for the under 50 crowd, that is still a 1% chance. Do you cross the street every day knowing you have a 1% chance of being killed per crossing or drive your car knowing you have a 1% chance of a fatal accident per outing, or whatever.

Your life expectancy would be less than 100 days from today, yet a 1% chance of dying from a disease is no big deal?

Well please go ahead and take yourself out of the gene pool. The race will be stronger for it.

138 posted on 03/12/2020 7:59:32 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: null and void
Source:

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

139 posted on 03/12/2020 8:09:59 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Travis McGee

Many thanks for your analyses!

Travis McGee wrote:

“Q from Elsie:

Shouldn’t the size of the country’s population be taken into account?

A from AJ: No! That is the point of exponential increases. The important number is the number of newly infected / day divided by the number of presently infected. If it doubles every three days, it doesn’t matter where you start. Soon most of your population will have been infected. The difference between infecting all of Italy and all of the US is about 1/2 of a week.

By plotting the numbers on a log graph you can determine the alpha for each country and as Travis’s plot shows it is pretty much the same country to country.

Now, if you were to show plots for Taiwan or Singapore or China you would see very different patterns because they have broken the chain of multiplication through effective public health measures.

14 posted on 3/12/2020, 7:58:05 AM by AndyJackson”


140 posted on 03/12/2020 8:24:55 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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