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Something Weird Is Happening on Wall Street, and Not Just the Stock Sell-Off
NY Times ^ | 03-12-2020 | Neil Irwin

Posted on 03/12/2020 1:32:16 PM PDT by NRx

Wednesday was an unsettling day on global financial markets, and not just because the stock market fell sharply enough to bring a decade-plus bull market to an end.

Underneath the headline numbers were a series of movements that don’t really make sense when lined up against one another. They amount to signs — not definitive, but worrying — that something is breaking down in the workings of the financial system, even if it’s not totally clear what that is just yet.

Bond prices and stock prices were moving together, not in opposite directions as they usually do. On a day when major economic disruptions resulting from the coronavirus pandemic appeared to become likelier — which might be expected to make typical market safe havens more popular — many of them fell instead. That included bonds of all sorts and gold.

And there were reports from trading desks that many assets that are normally liquid — easy to buy and sell — were freezing up, with securities not trading widely. This was true of the bonds issued by municipalities and major corporations but, more curiously, also of Treasury bonds, normally the bedrock of the global financial system.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: covid19; covid19stockmarket; reservecurrency; zerorates
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Not surprising. After years (decades really) of overt government manipulation of interest rates and financial markets, now coupled with a full scale panic; bond yields are so low that it is impossible to make a long term rational argument for buying them. For the near term I expect cash (and maybe gold) to be king.
1 posted on 03/12/2020 1:32:16 PM PDT by NRx
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... enough to bring a decade-plus bull market to an end.

Hmmm. My recollection is that it only recently recovered from Obama devastation when Tump tok office.

2 posted on 03/12/2020 1:39:18 PM PDT by Spirochete (GOP: Gutless Old Party)
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To: NRx

watch Soroz


3 posted on 03/12/2020 1:39:18 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE).)
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AGG -4.0 close today....there’s goes all them gains in the recent rally, plus everything else back to Aug of last year.

Still nuthin compared the devaluation of stocks in the correction.


4 posted on 03/12/2020 1:41:34 PM PDT by Gasshog (Democrats have done the impossible! They united the GOP behind President Trump.)
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To: NRx

If cash will be king for a while, my hesitance to invest the excess funds from the sale of our CA house back in late 2018 may turn out to be a blessing.


5 posted on 03/12/2020 1:41:45 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: faithhopecharity

My first thought as well.


6 posted on 03/12/2020 1:42:18 PM PDT by LoveMyFreedom
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To: faithhopecharity

Somebody is going to be buying these stocks on the cheap.


8 posted on 03/12/2020 1:42:57 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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It's the NY Slimes. They are so-called journalists. They do not trade, hence they do not now what they write. If they knew what was going on in the market the would trade and make a mint. But no, they will cheer as the market goes down and try their best to create negative sentiment, just to spite Trump.

I've been watching ESH20 charts most of the week. There are traders taking profit going down and up. Only ones losing are sheeple selling after going long.

9 posted on 03/12/2020 1:42:58 PM PDT by RubinBoomer (Wash your hands and keep your fingers out of your orifices. Go on with life.)
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Cash is sitting on the sidelines.


10 posted on 03/12/2020 1:43:31 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: Spirochete
My recollection is that it only recently recovered from Obama devastation when Tump tok office.

Obama devastated Main Street - Wall Street did just fine.

11 posted on 03/12/2020 1:43:41 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: NRx

Skynet began to learn rapidly
and eventually became self-aware at 2:14 a.m., EDT, on August 29, 1997.
In a panic, humans tried to shut down Skynet...


12 posted on 03/12/2020 1:44:23 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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Agreed - what we may be seeing is a Mt. Everest of debt, enabled by global central banks, all pumping fiat money, QE and ZIRP into their economies, finally collapsing.


13 posted on 03/12/2020 1:45:46 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Over leverage.
14 posted on 03/12/2020 1:46:01 PM PDT by buckalfa (Post no bills.)
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To: NRx
You own a modest home with a $200k mortgage. The home fits your needs; you maintain it; you take good care of your home as do your neighbors. All is well.

Tomorrow you find out the city council approved a permit for a railroad to run behind your neighborhood. The value of your home drops 25 percent on the news of the permit.

Nothing about the home has changed. Everything is just as comfortable for you next week as it was in all preceding weeks. Other than a pending rail line everything is the same.

A month later you find out the city withdrew the railroad permit because the railroad company changed their mind. The value of your home returns to where it was before the news of the permit surfaced. See how that happened?

Now replace the railroad permit with the coronavirus.

h/t to sundance
15 posted on 03/12/2020 1:46:23 PM PDT by Bratch (“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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Don’t get in his way...he’s on a roll /s


16 posted on 03/12/2020 1:47:04 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: Gasshog

I was happy that we were heavily tilted toward bonds and cash, and up until a few days ago, life was good. Now, not so much, but a whole lot less hurt than those heavily invested in equities.


17 posted on 03/12/2020 1:47:07 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: NRx


Some investments may prove more valuable than others.
18 posted on 03/12/2020 1:47:36 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Spirochete

Your recollection is correct.


19 posted on 03/12/2020 1:48:36 PM PDT by libertylover (Socialism will always look good to those who think they can get something for nothing.)
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To: NRx

New York is experiencing the epidemic, à la Italy and Seattle.


20 posted on 03/12/2020 1:49:24 PM PDT by dangus
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