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CDC says coronavirus survived in Princess Cruise ship cabins for up to 17 days after passengers left.
CNBC ^ | 3/23/2020 | William Feuer

Posted on 03/23/2020 5:25:40 PM PDT by vespa300

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To: GnuThere

“I think 17 days is bogus, but what does the industry do to get customers back with crap like this?”

For starters, it needs to get SERIOUS RESEARCH done, research showing that the dose you get from a doorknob can’t do jack to you, research showing that even infected people cannot easily pass it to others, unless they’re showing symptoms or unless they’re in very tight, low airflow, quarters.

Short of that, kiss that business gone. They cannot survive scare-stories like this unless they get serious about fighting back.


101 posted on 03/23/2020 7:38:16 PM PDT by BobL (If some people here don't want to prep for Coronavirus, they can explain it to their families)
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To: vespa300

“In 1986, Resnick and colleagues reported HIV surviving for more than 15 days in wet conditions and up to 3 days after drying.” https://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/11/01/hiv-survival-outside-body


102 posted on 03/23/2020 7:41:57 PM PDT by JCL3 (As Richard Feynman might have said, this is reality taking precedence over public relations.)
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To: BradyLS

Yes.

99.9% kill is not sufficient for infection prevention.


103 posted on 03/23/2020 7:45:09 PM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Libloather

Libloather wrote:

“Colorado company uses UV lighting technology to kill 99.9 percent of bacteria and viruses

https://kdvr.com/news/coronavirus/colorado-company-uses-uv-lighting-technology-to-kill-99-9-percent-of-bacteria-and-viruses/

UV-C light?

Looking into it, if I can find the lights.


104 posted on 03/23/2020 7:46:10 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: BobL

“They cannot survive scare-stories like this unless they get serious about fighting back.”

Sad when Some 20-something dude can use click-bait to spread fake news.


105 posted on 03/23/2020 7:50:02 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Jim Noble

“99.9% kill is not sufficient for infection prevention.”

Source?


106 posted on 03/23/2020 7:51:23 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: catnipman

Also :

“...though it wasn’t possible to determine whether they caused any infections.”

Need to know the length of time it’s viable when deposited on various types of surfaces.


107 posted on 03/23/2020 7:51:54 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: vespa300

How do they know? They dont have any test kits.

Or.

Took them 19 days to get the test results.

Or

How many CDC employees to test for COVID 19? Nobody knows. They cant find any test kits.


108 posted on 03/23/2020 7:53:28 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: JCL3

““In 1986, Resnick and colleagues reported HIV surviving for more than 15 days in wet conditions and up to 3 days after drying.”

Please provide a link to something better than a letter to the Editor written by an ‘independent consultant’ ....


109 posted on 03/23/2020 8:05:05 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Sequoyah101

You are rambling but that is ok. You got click-baited!


110 posted on 03/23/2020 8:06:50 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: mikelets456

There was once something similarly used in a a NASA development program. Photoscrub 5 is a specialized filter from an SBIR program designed to thwart anthrax. A Japanese American joint research effort it was—pachinko parlor smokers really needed better air filtration.


111 posted on 03/23/2020 8:15:50 PM PDT by Scram1
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To: dfwgator

I’m convinced everybody at the CDC has an inside game going.
The ones who don’t are merely interns and they will learn.


112 posted on 03/23/2020 8:21:54 PM PDT by GnuThere
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To: CodeToad

Try to calm down and don’t put words or assumptions on me.


113 posted on 03/23/2020 8:47:54 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (There's a stairway to heaven, but there's also a highway to hell.)
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To: TexasGator

Nope. Didn’t read it.


114 posted on 03/23/2020 8:49:29 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: RummyChick
just saw a story that a former Govt person is claiming CDC lied to the PResident about testing capabilities in the beginning

There's an article on here (OP a short time earlier) about one of the reasons CDC was so behind in this was after Obama's swine flu, they never fully recouped their readiness levels, and instead spent all their $$$ on Gun Control studies and other "social justice" activities.
115 posted on 03/23/2020 9:35:52 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: vespa300

The CDC much like CNN, MSNBC


116 posted on 03/24/2020 3:31:13 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nicdip.com)
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To: vespa300

NIH says hours...

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/new-coronavirus-stable-hours-surfaces


117 posted on 03/24/2020 3:36:01 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: vespa300
What was the environment of the surfaces? How sure are they that nobody was "stealth carrying" and deposited the virus at a later time? How long before that had the virus stopped being viable as far as infecting anyone (being detectable and being viable are two different things).

Why is this cruise ship the first time we've had any inkling?

The sucky part is that there are far more questions than a bald assertion and idiots will go into a new panic over it.

118 posted on 03/24/2020 4:50:24 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Society should be very wary of click-bait headlines.


119 posted on 03/24/2020 7:19:58 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: ronnie raygun

“The CDC much like CNN, MSNBC”

ROTFLMAO! You got click-baited by CNBC with fake news!


120 posted on 03/24/2020 7:21:25 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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