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Long Island doctor tries new twist on hydroxychloroquine for elderly COVID-19 patients
New York Post ^ | 4/4/20 | Lorena Mongelli

Posted on 04/04/2020 5:56:32 AM PDT by LisaFab

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To: House Atreides

i agree and we are using the same combination in hospitalized patients we just don’t call it a study because it is not. Studies get a lot of scorn around here I am glad you see the need. Case in point as i illustrated above look up a drug called xigris


41 posted on 04/04/2020 7:08:04 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

My take on the article is not that it is a “breathless miracle cure”. It is to highlight that a drug that does not cause unwanted heart problems was used and the results were fairly close to what others have been doing. The Dr. does say that this was not a clinical trial. It was more of a alternative attempt to obtain similar results. My take away is that the virus isn’t this big, scary monster that the media is touting it to be. It can be defeated. And is being defeated, by creative measures.


42 posted on 04/04/2020 7:09:12 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2020)
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To: CondorFlight
Meanwhile, we have to await the results of “clinical trials”, which may come in several months/years..

No, you don't. These drugs have been approved in the US for many years. Any doctor can prescribe them. Ivwrmectin is also approved and can be prescribed off-label for Cv19.

43 posted on 04/04/2020 7:13:32 AM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Azithromycin has been off patent and cheaply available for more than a decade. What’s your point?


44 posted on 04/04/2020 7:15:58 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: USS Alaska

Someone should point this out to Fauci. He may carry MD somewhere after his name but he is far more a eesearcher than a doctor. That’s true if most of the CDC FDA people. I know some have reservations about them but the USPHS is made up of doctors and nurses who do practice. Maybe they should be making these decisions about treatment.


45 posted on 04/04/2020 7:20:38 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Pollard

The problem is the Italian doctor


46 posted on 04/04/2020 7:23:17 AM PDT by The Fop (God Bless Donald Trump, Frank Sinatra, Joan Rivers, and the Fightin' Rat Pack Wing of the GOP)
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To: mjp

Freegards mjp!

There is an anti viral effect in the dish. It is true of all the macrolides. That is why this one was used as opposed to many other better options to control secondary infections. This came out of AIDS research IIRC. These compounds have multiple effects.


47 posted on 04/04/2020 7:23:48 AM PDT by BDParrish ( Please correct me! I never learned anything from anybody who already agreed with me.)
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To: mjp; Mom MD
The antibiotic zithromycin is for treating secondary bacterial infections that might occur, not the virus itself. Any broad spectrum antibiotic should be able to work as well as zithromycin.

Azithromycin also helps the body's cells absorb zinc, and zinc interferes with viral replication.

I don't know if doxycyclin does this as well, but the proof that it works, regardless of mechanism, is the survivors. One could argue that the "control group" is the other area nursing homes that didn't have the same high survival rates.

48 posted on 04/04/2020 7:29:22 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: Pollard
Well they wouldn’t listen to the Jewish Dr. Maybe they’ll listen to the Mohamedan Dr

It does put the MSM in a bind...

49 posted on 04/04/2020 7:32:21 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: null and void
Not all Mohammads are bad.

My GP's first name is Mohammad. He's from Syria and that man saved my life. I am *not* kidding that he saved my life.

I was in his office for a routine visit when my heart went into afib. He caught it, kept my heart going and got me to the hospital.

If I hadn't have been in is office the moment it happened, I'd be dead.

He is without a doubt the kindest, most compassionate and gentle doctor I've ever had. Damn' smart too.

50 posted on 04/04/2020 7:36:28 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Mom MD
"the control group does not have to be non treated patients although there are some that..."

Freegards Mom MD!

My best friend's uncle is probably going to die with COVID-19 today. The one I told you about that would not keep his cpap clean. His wife has it too but not as bad yet. She will survive prolly but Chris was the only one able to care for her (dementia).

As to HCQ/Zpac/Zn, we are going to get the studies. It just takes time. Sad that people have to die but it was always this way. "We are in God's hands!"

51 posted on 04/04/2020 7:38:18 AM PDT by BDParrish ( Please correct me! I never learned anything from anybody who already agreed with me.)
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To: null and void

Not all Mohammads are bad.
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Right. Where’s the zinc that stops the virus from replicating? That’s why he probably lost patients to cytokine storm.


52 posted on 04/04/2020 7:42:10 AM PDT by RideForever (We were born to be tested)
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To: FreedomForce

Cypro can prolong the QT, same concern as Azith.


53 posted on 04/04/2020 7:45:56 AM PDT by Moonlighter
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To: mjp

I’d think, in regards to this virus, secondary bacterial pneumonia is highest concern and use for antibiotic. I wonder if it’s even necessary in people who current on pneumonia vax.


54 posted on 04/04/2020 7:49:40 AM PDT by Moonlighter
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To: Hulka
Tomorrow's media headline: "Trump is a Muslim!"
55 posted on 04/04/2020 7:52:03 AM PDT by Moonlighter
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To: Hulka
Tomorrow's media headline: "Trump is a Muslim!"
56 posted on 04/04/2020 7:52:04 AM PDT by Moonlighter
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To: Don Corleone

I’ve had Doxy before. Works great, no lower GI issues. But upper GI, oy....


57 posted on 04/04/2020 7:54:08 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: BuffaloJack

Mix a lil tonic water into some oj with c and zinc. Might help prevent virus, at the least, makes for a tasty concoction.


58 posted on 04/04/2020 7:56:27 AM PDT by Moonlighter
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To: LisaFab

Drs Boris and Natasha are very saddened by this report.


59 posted on 04/04/2020 8:11:49 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Mom MD

Isn’t every hospital not using those drugs a control group not using those drugs?

I am sure we have plenty of hospitals that can be called control groups. Especially in those states where such drugs were initially banned from use.


60 posted on 04/04/2020 8:17:59 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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