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Here's How Medicare for All Would Deal with the Coronavirus Pandemic; The British NHS Gives Us A Hint
PJ Media ^ | 04/15/2020 | Jeff Reynolds

Posted on 04/15/2020 7:35:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Most of the field of candidates running for the Democratic presidential nomination at one point signed on to the idea of Medicare for All, a compromise proposal by Bernie Sanders for universal health care coverage. In a pandemic, people panic, and seek security. Many may think that this event proves the need for universal, government-run coverage. What would that look like in reality? How would Medicare for All handle the coronavirus pandemic?

Luckily, we have a real world example that is dealing with coronavirus today: Great Britain's National Health Service (NHS). NHS has long been known for its tradeoff between universal, mostly free coverage, and rationing of care. Now, the NHS faces real shortages of resources as hospitals get overrun by coronavirus patients. So much so that they have implemented a scale system to determine whether a patient gets treatment or not.

The Daily Mail reports:

Frail coronavirus patients may be denied critical care under an NHS scale system designed to free up ICU beds.

The controversial 'Clinical Frailty Scale' (CFS) ranks patients' vulnerability from one to nine in order to prioritise those most likely to recover from the killer virus.

Those with a combined score of more than five are said to have uncertainty around the benefits of critical care, according to the system, which has been implemented while NHS hospitals desperately scramble to free up beds and ventilators.

It comes after NHS sources denied that elderly patients would be rejected from critical care using a scoring system - where over-65s with the deadly virus were to be ranked out of 10 based on their age, frailty and underlying conditions.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: medicare; medicareforall; nhs; obamacarefuture; pandemic

The NHS even published a handy chart to show everyone who lives and who dies:



NHS scrapped a scoring system that automatically scored older patients as less likely to receive care, after accusations of age discrimination. The NHS has issued clarifications that this is only a tool to assist in making care decisions. The NHS was unable, however, to notice the elephant in the room - universal, government run health care always leads to rationing of care because the government can't run anything efficiently.

1 posted on 04/15/2020 7:35:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Nationalize EVERY aspect of healthcare so that EVERY decision can be based on sh*tty fake projections and bloviating by “experts”.

What can go wrong?


2 posted on 04/15/2020 7:40:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: SeekAndFind

The masses have been sold a Bill of Goods when it comes to Government Healthcare. They actually BELIEVE they will get the care they need, whenever they need it.

Rationing care is the only way a Government can provide enough ‘care’ with the money they have been allotted. Even raising taxes to provide more money to the NHS won’t work. The amount of care needed, will expand to overwhelm the money allotted. Every time. The sheeple are too ingrained in Leftism to think for themselves anymore. This should be an aha moment. But for many it won’t be.


3 posted on 04/15/2020 7:53:31 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell..?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Reading the horror stories related to the NHS hospitals it’s better to just stay home and die because they constantly misdiagnose ailments especially for kids.


4 posted on 04/15/2020 7:56:04 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SkyDancer

But then, Boris Johnson credits the NHS for saving him.


5 posted on 04/15/2020 7:57:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"sh*tty fake projections and bloviating by “experts”."

You are so very correct. From a medical perspective, as a general rule of thumb, the more times you see some physician on television, the more likely it is that they are full of sh** and that you would be better off not having them as your doctor. This isn't universally true, but way too often is.

6 posted on 04/15/2020 7:58:30 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: SeekAndFind

OAPs (old age pensioners) in the UK have always been on the endangered list. They get lousy healthcare coverage, assisted living/skilled nursing care, very few options for aging in place.

But the UK claps for its NHS.

Bet the geezers aren’t.


7 posted on 04/15/2020 7:58:57 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Them that has, gets.


8 posted on 04/15/2020 7:59:33 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SeekAndFind

The NHS employs over a million people.

It’s the UK’s largest employer.

And BoJo has zero desire to mess with them.


9 posted on 04/15/2020 8:01:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: mewzilla

I’m one of them. News to me that my condition is as you describe it.


10 posted on 04/15/2020 10:20:28 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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