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1 posted on 04/16/2020 12:04:43 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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I have always assumed that it would collapse before I got old enough to draw on it.


2 posted on 04/16/2020 12:07:22 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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Just pass a unanimous consent Multi-$$$$$$$$$$trillion dollar bailout...../s


3 posted on 04/16/2020 12:07:56 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Hojczyk
Ponzi just sped up his scheme.
6 posted on 04/16/2020 12:11:09 PM PDT by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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Just asinine. On the other side of that, millions of the middle-aged and elderly will die a decade or more before they normally would have. One Italian joked then the state pension fund must have come up with this virus in collusion with the national health care program, thereby zeroing out hundreds of billions of euros in state-funded pension and medical care obligations.


7 posted on 04/16/2020 12:11:57 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Hojczyk

But the welfare system is sound right?


8 posted on 04/16/2020 12:13:07 PM PDT by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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Social Security will never run out of money as long as the Government can print money.


10 posted on 04/16/2020 12:18:29 PM PDT by FewsOrange
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This ponzi scheme needs to end permanently.

I never signed up for it. Someone else signed me up.

I never had the chance to determine if i wanted to enter this contract.

They also put the signers, my folks, under duress at the hospital saying they can’t/won’t let babies leave without being enrolled in SS.

And once signed up, by someone else, you have no way of leaving the contract and getting your money back that was collected.

If this were done to someone for any other comtract they’re forced into or someone else signed for them, there would be considered massive violations of contract law. Coercion, duress, being told there’s no way to volutntarily not sign up, etc, no way out of a contract for a person who never agreed to all the terms in the first place.


12 posted on 04/16/2020 12:20:07 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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Pure BS. SS is wealth transfer scheme (aka as welfare) and cannot go broke. It takes from current taxpayers and gives to current recipients. All taxation and benefits are political calculations.

To imply that SS can go broke implies it has legal binding obligations and that revenue is static. It does not.

SS holds US Treasury bonds. Which are redeemed via current tax revenue. It is a shell game.


13 posted on 04/16/2020 12:26:05 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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Fun fact about social security, the change in Ratio of Covered Workers to Beneficiaries

Year: workers to beneficiaries
1940: 159 to 1
2013: 2.8 to 1

When it started, most people died before they got any benefit. The so-called safety net was really a tax, and a safety net last. Now the unfunded liabilities is drowning us in future debt.

14 posted on 04/16/2020 12:27:12 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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Trillions in debt and spending like there is no tomorrow. What could possibly go wrong? America is too big to fail! /s I actually didn’t think the fall of America would be this swift in my lifetime.


19 posted on 04/16/2020 12:55:43 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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Once the gub’mint began paying all kinds of folks money out of the once lucrative pot (in the ‘60s) felons in prison got SS checks for disability (alcoholics), homeless (drug addicts), moms and dads with kids born with “disabilities” like learning disabled. When did parents know this - at birth of course! SS is big with “foster parents” because their kids have problems by being unwanted, mom’s a crack addict & kids taken away, etc. so they sign these kids for their SS that’s why they take them in the first place - and many are declared disabled prior to 6mos old.

Bye bye SS pot of $$$.

Even my one time neighbors, she from Britain, he from Iran, bring his mom & dad to US (not one of these folks are citizens, mind you) sign up parents who soon get SS checks.

Then there are SS employees themselves who get checks mailed to themselves for long-dead relatives!

Every gub’mint program is rife with fraud and have been for decades but so long as the golden goose kept the money flooding in, all’s OK.

That goose has been killed and we’re about to eat it as pantry is bare!

20 posted on 04/16/2020 12:59:53 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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The future never arrives. The piper never has to be paid. The road down which we are kicking the can has no end. This is the foundation of modern government.


24 posted on 04/16/2020 1:56:57 PM PDT by sphinx
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OTOH, a lot of people who have been collecting have now died.


31 posted on 04/16/2020 3:24:46 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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