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Finally getting some numbers in on the actual infection rate. We always knew it was much higher than the current "official" numbers, just not how much higher.

The factor of 50 in the Bay Area is almost certainly can't be scaled to the country as a whole, but I bet the rates in LA county are similar.

These reports are piling up now...all saying that somewhere between 5% and 15% of the population has been exposed to the Wuhan virus.

1 posted on 04/17/2020 5:40:53 PM PDT by absalom01
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2 posted on 04/17/2020 5:41:56 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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Lowers the overall fatality rate then, right?


3 posted on 04/17/2020 5:44:31 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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But we do not have 85 times more hospitalizations. What does this tell us?


4 posted on 04/17/2020 5:45:19 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Herd Immunity doesn’t occur at 4% of the population having acquired immunity.


5 posted on 04/17/2020 5:47:32 PM PDT by Paladin2
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It hit us, and most of us are still alive and most did not have to go to a hospital nor did we die!

They are leaving that reality out re these numbers.


6 posted on 04/17/2020 5:49:00 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs, their blatant ownership of America, fake news media/CNN, the real Deep Staters?)
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Bay area.

Perhaps there is an infection vector that is - shall we say - a bit more common in that area?

Just wonderin’.


9 posted on 04/17/2020 5:52:04 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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“CORONAVIRUSPublished 5 hours ago Coronavirus antibody testing finds Bay Area infections may be 85 times higher than reported: researchers...”

I certainly hope so.


13 posted on 04/17/2020 6:00:11 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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… or it’s showing that a lot of people have had ordinary colds in the Bay Area.

The problem with antibody tests is that antibodies tend to cross-react with similar antigens. They did not use an FDA approved diagnostic grade kit, but a research grade kit. The standards for an FDA approved kit are far higher than those for a research grade kit. And coronaviruses are structurally similar to each other.


14 posted on 04/17/2020 6:00:32 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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And the bodies aren’t stacked as high as a tower in the Golden Gate Bridge because...


17 posted on 04/17/2020 6:02:22 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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Wonder if anyone did a QA on the antibody test?


24 posted on 04/17/2020 6:11:50 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet
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I think this thing can be beaten. There are forces that will do anything to prolong it. Nevertheless,destroying the country is not the answer. I have lost some already who think I am insane and inhumane. We are at war civilly and worldly. It is Conservatism vs Globalism. Globalism nuked the world. That was their last ditch effort because President Trump is their Kryptonite.


25 posted on 04/17/2020 6:12:53 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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When this all started in the news back in February there was some scientist who predicted that anywhere between 40 and 70% of the WORLD would get this infection in the next year.

There was a lot of mockery here on FR over that prediction.


27 posted on 04/17/2020 6:16:45 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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I wonder how much of our genetics makes a difference in infection rate.

Live in the DC burbs, run into people who work at the National Cancer Institute and they tell me developing cancer is genetic. Basically if you don’t have the mesothelioma gene, you can eat asbestos for breakfast every morning and you won’t get mesothelioma.

We are seeing a high rate of asymptomatic cases. Is it genetic or virus load?


29 posted on 04/17/2020 6:18:02 PM PDT by lizma2
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just as i have been saying all along!


31 posted on 04/17/2020 6:19:03 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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Wonderful! The virus is 85 times less lethal than previously claimed. We were misled. It’s not much worse , if at all, than regular old fashioned seasonal flu. As I’ve been postulating all along but now we have the proof. And we have an effective and dirt cheap treatment with several more in rapid development. —— all this panic is destroying our country and millions of Americans’ jobs and businesses. Let’s advise frail elderly folks to be careful if both flu and this new similar virus. And let’s get back to work now!


40 posted on 04/17/2020 6:38:28 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they are excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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This is actually great news!

Note that only people with symptoms are tested.
If there are tons of Asymptomatic infected people, it means the denominator to compute death rate is much bigger, and the death rate therefore is much SMALLER.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/coronavirus-clue-most-cases-aboard-us-aircraft-carrier-are-symptom-free/ar-BB12Jojz


43 posted on 04/17/2020 6:43:48 PM PDT by entropy12 (You are either for free enterprise or want gov't to guarantee your wages.)
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That’s good. Let’s start opening up on April 30.


50 posted on 04/17/2020 6:54:13 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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This may be true. So, it means the vast majority of people may become infected without negative affects. So, tell me, if this is true, why did we destroy our economy and plunge this country into trillions of debt that not even our great grandkids can retire.

WHAT A BOONDOGGLE!


56 posted on 04/17/2020 7:00:14 PM PDT by icclearly
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This is so amazing!!!! 30-40% of the population ALREADY HAD THE VIRUS! So this is like..... a worse than average flu year, MAYBE double.

NIH also is doing a 10,000 person randomized test now, should see results next week.


58 posted on 04/17/2020 7:05:09 PM PDT by cookcounty (Susan Rice: G Gordon Liddy times 10.)
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This seems to be a running theme with Communists.


62 posted on 04/17/2020 8:10:32 PM PDT by Crucial
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