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To: DannyTN
I keep expecting a change in attitude as the death toll mounts. It's now over 40,000.

Death toll is now over 40,000. Virus death toll is not.

Hospitals are categorizing deaths WITH the virus as deaths BY the virus. Birx even admitted it, saying they were "presumed" to be COVID caused and labeled as such.

That's some sloppy science. Given that there is more money to be made by hospitals if deaths are COVID deaths rather than ordinary deaths, that kind of explains the "skyrocketing" death rate by the virus.

Sorry, I don't believe them.

19 posted on 04/19/2020 1:08:19 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta
Hospitals are categorizing deaths WITH the virus as deaths BY the virus. Birx even admitted it, saying they were “presumed” to be COVID caused and labeled as such.

Yes.
Not to mention, if people are so happy about being locked down at home, losing their jobs, going bankrupt, being financially ruined, how come protests and demonstrations have erupted everywhere against lockdowns despite being under the threat of getting arrested for breaking lockdown rules?

32 posted on 04/19/2020 1:19:25 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Lizavetta

I have an issue with categorizing all untested deaths of those who came in with symptoms of corona as being presumed positive even if they directly died of pneumonia or heart failure.

If a patient with corona virus symptoms comes in and IS tested positive,AND has other co-morbidities then we know the virus will stress those systems affected by a patient’s pre-conditions. It is logical to assign a covids diagnosis to the death of such an one who dies of organ failures due to the viral aggravation of his underlying conditions, especially if the patient might have lived for years with his pre-conditions otherwise, having been untouched by the virus.

I think all deaths where the presenting symptoms were covid suspicious should be tested to make sure the patient was positive, even if he died of liver and kidney failure which showed up during the treatment of the covid respiratory symptoms.


43 posted on 04/19/2020 1:29:59 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Lizavetta

The categorizing is based on whether the person would have presented and died in the hospital if not for the virus THIS time.

The virus attacks all organs. It is not an influenza virus. You die from “the virus”, you die from an organ failure.

Using your logic, everyone dies from lack of oxygen to the brain—because that is what technically kills everyone.

Plus, you realize that the estimation of the flu deaths every year follows the exact same rules of categorization—except they assign EVERY pneumonia death during flu season to the flu.

The issue is you probably never paid attention to deaths and how they were categorized. Educate yourself. It will save you from making incorrect statements in public.

Just because the reality of the world does not fit your view of how it should operate, doesn’t mean the rest of the world is wrong.


65 posted on 04/19/2020 1:45:58 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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