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Kissinger's folly: The threat to world order is China
The Hill ^ | 04/19/20 04:00 PM EDT | BRADLEY A. THAYER AND LIANCHAO HAN

Posted on 04/19/2020 10:10:06 PM PDT by robowombat

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1 posted on 04/19/2020 10:10:06 PM PDT by robowombat
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The Chinese Fascists are our existential enemy and someday we’ll have a really big war with them.

Maybe someday soon.


2 posted on 04/19/2020 10:17:35 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I agree.


3 posted on 04/19/2020 10:18:59 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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So do I.

I wish it were not the case. I lived there a long time ago for a while, and even speak some of the language.

But I agree with you.

America (badly) needs, to cease doing business with China.

Now.


4 posted on 04/19/2020 10:28:02 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: Mariner

Only Nixon can go to China.
And, only Clinton can authorize the sale of US Missile Tech to allow the Communists the ability to threaten the planet.
Prior to Clinton, the Chinese could only launch Bottle Rockets. Anything much larger ALL failed miserably. For years and years. It was a running joke.
Then Clinton remedied that by authorizing the US transfer of Tech Knowledge to help the Communist Chinese with their rocket issues.


5 posted on 04/19/2020 10:31:40 PM PDT by ocrp1982
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To: Mariner

The US will hopefully adhere to the adage that there are two countries one never should invade; Russia and China.


6 posted on 04/19/2020 10:32:31 PM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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I honestly don’t think Kissinger was responsible for the
early 1990s decision to gift China with global trade just
a couple of years after their brutal regime slaughtered
thousand in Tiananmen Square.

Did he set it up with Bill Clinton and Loral in mind, to
gift China with our Gyro Technology and MIRV technology?

Did he set it up to have 99.999999999% of our manufacturing
to go there? I don’t think so.

Opening up China so I wouldn’t be as divorced from the
world wasn’t a bad idea at a time when Russian was both
our enemies, and China had developed nuclear weapons.

The U. S. sought to become closer to China, but I’m not
convinced anything we saw of the last nearly 30 year was
what Kissinger had in mind.

What person with at least a 25% functioning human brain
could not see the dangers of jumping China forward at
least five decades with technology and trillions in trade?

Sorry folks, but after the last nearly 30 years of
incredibly stupid actions, it’s absurd to blame all of them
on Henry Kissinger.

GHW Bush, Bill Clinton, GW Bush, Barack Obama...

Now your getting warm.

I once said that every corporate entity that went to China
was a traitorous move against our nation.

Our idiots, made agreements with China to gift them all
the technology used in China.

We practically gift them our entire patent database, and
I recall one of our U. S. Senators suggesting it in public.

Yeah, I suppose Henry Kissinger was responsible for that
too.

Why not toss in the Wuhan Flu. Kissing was once in China!

Well, why not? Makes as much sense as another article
saying he was the problem.

It has been 48 years since Kissing went to China.

Gosh, it’s really a shame none of our leaders since could
stop him from his dastardly contrivances? LOL

People really get desperate for whipping boys...

Where are the pricks who rammed this nonsense down our
throats now?

I knew they’d scatter like mice.


7 posted on 04/19/2020 10:33:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: Mariner

My late father said the same thing in the 70’s. China was the real threat.


8 posted on 04/19/2020 10:33:46 PM PDT by Jaded (Pope Francis? Not really a fan... miss the last guy who recognized how Islam spread... the sword.)
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To: robowombat

The demise of this so-called “liberal’ international order is rooted in Europe’s rejection of the Pax Americana.

The Europeans, along with their Third World toadies, did all they could to undermine the global peace and prosperity which was set to develop through the leadership of the United States of America after the fall of the Soviet Empire.

Unfortunately there were, and still are, many Americans (including far too many in positions of power) who share the European loathing of Liberty, and the globalist’s hatred of the United States.

So an end to the current “liberal” (what an odd term to describe the budding One World fascism) international order is not to be mourned. Not one tear shed.


9 posted on 04/19/2020 10:34:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Mariner

In the early 90s, I predicted many of our youth would die
because of the policies the leaders of that time were
implementing with China.

Where are those brain trusts now?


10 posted on 04/19/2020 10:35:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: robowombat

So now the msm is going to blame Nixon?


11 posted on 04/19/2020 10:37:40 PM PDT by JoSixChip (WuHoo flu is going to get you!)
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To: robowombat

We’ll never invade China. That would be suicide, and besides, we don’t have the capability.


12 posted on 04/19/2020 10:41:01 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: DoughtyOne; All
How did China move from very crude surface launched IRBM subs (about 1955 USN technology) to SLBM’s roughly comparable to those of the Us within a few years in the 1990’s.Scarcely a word of this treason is ever spoken.
13 posted on 04/19/2020 10:41:21 PM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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The real crimes during the Clintoon Regime was just how much they sold and/or allowed to be stolen on their watch to the ChiComs. That’s why they wanted the Lewinsky investigation instead of ChinaGate. Sex stuff they could beat in the court of public opinion (at least in the ‘90s). Treason, not so much.


14 posted on 04/19/2020 10:44:13 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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To: Mariner

The Chinese Fascists are our existential enemy and someday we’ll have a really big war with them.

Maybe someday soon.>> maybe some time later. but let’s get started, we need to repatriate our production resources first. This will take a while. A lot.. a very large lot of stuff around the world is controlled by china.


15 posted on 04/19/2020 10:53:47 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (spooks won on day 76)
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Yep. Our corporations wanted China to launch their satellites. China’s launch systems weren’t reliable.

They were rattling to death on launch. We gave them the
technology to hit U. S. targets withing 50 feet.

I forget now if we gave them GPS tech too.


16 posted on 04/19/2020 10:58:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: robowombat
The willful ignorance of the China threat was the greatest U.S. strategic blunder certainly since the Cold War, and likely the most significant in U.S. history. Countless academics, think thank denizens, Silicon Valley and Wall Street gurus, and policymakers contributed to this. Yet curiously, Kissinger, who was famous early in his career as an advocate of realpolitik and the balance of power, missed it too.

Kissinger: Yet another fool from Harvard.

The fools from Harvard have been a danger to this country for decades.

17 posted on 04/19/2020 11:00:05 PM PDT by bkopto
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To: robowombat; null and void; aragorn; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; Beautiful_Gracious_Skies; bgill; bitt; ..
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Check out article.

18 posted on 04/19/2020 11:00:59 PM PDT by LucyT
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Hate to be defending Kissinger but...

He naturally thought China would do what was best for China.

Turned out PR mattered more.


19 posted on 04/19/2020 11:13:30 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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I completely agree.

Bring businesses back to America.

Right now. With tariffs. Big ones.

Bring back American production.

Even if it means wiping out, entire sections of former US industry which was sent to China.

They moved, themselves.

Screw ‘em.

(Sorry, but I am not at all sorry)


20 posted on 04/20/2020 12:10:59 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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