[familyop]

The so-called protesters really messed up. They did all that they could to turn voters in both parties against our President and his Administration by falsely advertising that the President is with them.

Just because so many of us are quiet in the face of the ranting and raving doesn’t mean that most conservatives are agreeing with the spoiled, criminal minded morons trying to publicly and intentionally spread the disease.

[PlateOfShrimp]

Did you take a wrong turn on the way to DU?

I don’t know what you are smoking, but most of us here completely support the freedom fighters. Tracing studies have shown that there is almost no transmission outside. There is no real science in any of these lockdown orders, just a bunch of petty tyrants strutting around with Gestapoboners.

It has been said again and again that the marginal cost, in terms of human suffering, of continuing lockdowns exceeds that of opening up.

When our President acts on bad advice, it is his supporters’ duty to call that fact out. Tiny Fancy and Hans Brix have slavishly followed a model with no predictive capability.

This is all about Nancy Polident’s desire to use this crisis to facilitate voter fraud in November.

[UNGN]

You need to understand, everyone in the US is going to get CCV, probably before there is a vaccine. The Media, politicians won’t tell you this, but I’m being honest with you.

Kids are Asymptomatic super spreaders. Kids are “the dog that doesn’t bark” in all of the data. Therefore, the virus CANNOT BE CONTAINED by “social distancing” or “Stay at home” orders.

If you think it will kill you, you WANT everyone else to go out and get it. The sooner the healthy get it, the sooner the unhealthy can come out from hiding.

At some point over the next 3 months, someone not on FR will tell you the truth about this, but you heard it here, first.

[Zhang Fei]

[The so-called protesters really messed up. They did all that they could to turn voters in both parties against our President and his Administration by falsely advertising that the President is with them.

Just because so many of us are quiet in the face of the ranting and raving doesn’t mean that most conservatives are agreeing with the spoiled, criminal minded morons trying to publicly and intentionally spread the disease.]

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I’m not a complete pessimist. Here’s an update from WA by a guy who spent years doing ESL instruction in China, and learned both Mandarin (although presumably not the mutually-unintelligible provincial languages) and a fair amount about China:

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[You’re in Washington state, right? I’d be willing to bet you we’ve already had hundreds of thousands of infections.

I’m in Whatcom county, and we have nearly thirty dead and close to 300 confirmed infected so far. Social distancing is a joke here — nobody’s really practicing it. Neither the old farmers from Lynden nor the young students at Western are wearing masks at the stores, in the parks, wherever. Yet the virus has been here for at least six weeks, but probably a month longer. Based on these antibody studies coming out, we’ve probably had at least 20,000 infections already out of 200,000 people.

And even if this lockdown has had some effect, it will be short-lived. It’s already over. People are out and about, traffic is nearly back to normal, and furloughed people are most definitely congregating and socially interacting. If the virus comes back with a vengeance, then maybe I’ll grant your point, but I don’t see that happening given the current situation. Ultimately, I think Whatcom county is going to end up with up to half of the population infected and around 50-100 counted as dead from this virus. Maybe 200 if we’re unlucky, but I doubt it, because I think this already went through here in February and they didn’t count those deaths as coronavirus.

It might be different in Seattle, where you have more social comorbidities, but I doubt it. There are tons of illegal immigrants from Hubei here in Washington, so we’ve had this infection from the beginning. Hell, the ladies running the nail salon in the local strip mall are from Hubei even up here in B-ham. We have now had this virus in WA for at least three months. One month only of half-assed lockdown, before which the disease was doubling every three days. So before lockdown 60 days of unmitigated spread. What’s 2 to the 20th power? It’s over a million, which is just about what the antibody studies are suggesting for WA.

So there you have it: the reason the deaths are strangely low on the west coast is that it spread here early and killed off many of the vulnerable before they had the opportunity to classify them as coronavirus deaths, and we’re not going to have another high peak because a lot of people have already cleared the infection and are now immune.]

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If what the guy says is a reflection of overall reality, while the initial numbers in China may be fake, the recent fairly uneventful reports on China even from Radio Free Asia (i.e. no further reports of 24-hour-crematorium operations running for weeks on end) may be accurate - the bug might have self-attenuated after months of seeming to burn out of control.

[Zhang Fei]

The real problem isn’t so much that that the Chinese denied access then. It’s that they’re denying us access now. If we knew for sure that the pandemic has petered out in China, we’d throw open the economy yesterday.

[packrat35]

I am with the protesters who are not criminals but being treated like it. It is people like you who make it easy for fascists to take over the country!

[Balding_Eagle]

Just because so many of us are quiet in the face of the ranting and raving doesn’t mean that most conservatives are agreeing with the spoiled, criminal minded morons trying to publicly and intentionally spread the disease.

The George W Bush response.

Not something to be proud of or to emulate.

[Vermont Lt]

Do you think the Globe had to run 15 pages of Obits to get Boston to vote Democrat?

Really?